You're not saying the 'Canadian system' is 'pure socialism'... but kind of socialism? Universal health care does not mean that Canada is a 'kind of socialist country'. This is a free market economy and U.S. protectionist practices when it comes to our softwood lumber industry make Canada look like the last bastion of free enterprise.Quote from RAY:
For example, You can not look at the Canadian system (and I am not saying it is pure socialism) and say, 'hey, look how great this system is!!!" How great would the care and system be if you removed most/some of the drugs, equipment, and procedures developed in the "other" system. Eventually the 'education' quality could begin to drop. Hard to pay for Harvard Med. degree on that capped income, OR!? Does everyone get a Harvard education too? Without the 'greedy' system would there be any truly advanced drugs/procedures in Africa? Would successful 'private' doctors feel able to spend some of their excess $loot$ to fix children's faces around the world as their vacation (if you don't understand this specific analogy you can probably figure it out through Google)? Maybe so.
The U.S. was the breeding ground for radical PC leftist thinking, which has poisoned the University systems in both countries and resulted in the institutionalization of laws which reward mediocrity on the basis of perceived victimization.
Don't get me wrong, I still believe that the U.S. has been the greatest country in the world in many ways, especially in terms of technological innovation and opportunity. However, we have our own accomplishments. Our GDP is roughly 10% of yours, as is our population.
Sure, we're to the left of the U.S. in some ways, maybe even generally speaking. But let's not hold Canada up as an example of anything remotely approaching a 'kind of socialist country'.
And as I said, Canadian health care is moving inexorably towards a two tier system. And let's face it - making health care an arm of big business is the last thing any country needs in terms of optimizing the health and subsequent productivity of its citizens.