Socialised health care in Canada poll

JOSEF · Feb 9, 2009

<i>I believe the best thing would be for the Government to slowly exit(over a number of years) the healthcare business. But it would probably be easier to create aerial swine...</i>

And what is your solution for people with pre-existing conditions?

Mnphats · Feb 9, 2009

Quote from Kassz007:

Yes the Dr. I was referring to was a general practitioner but the same goes for specialists as well. The higher wages are certainly an incentive to practice in the USA over Canada, but that is the only benefit. Some people will be motivated by the money to move south, others won't. It doesn't mean all competent Dr.'s from Canada move to the USA.

And no, I don't know anyone dieing waiting in line for a procedure. That doesn't mean it isn't happening this very moment, I was only trying to get the point across that people aren't dropping like flies because of slowness as some of the other posts suggested.

I'm sorry to hear about your wife's grandfather, but why didn't he travel to the USA to get treatment if the wait was too great in Canada? My guess is because it is too expensive, which is the very same problem many Americans face in the exact same situation.

Canadian Pride. He most certainly had the money to do so. The point is if socialized medicine is so good with no long lines he shouldn't have to come to the US.

Ribs · Feb 9, 2009

Quote from Mnphats:

Canadian Pride. He most certainly had the money to do so. The point is if socialized medicine is so good with no long lines he shouldn't have to come to the US.

you just don't understand

there are things in this world where monetary value can not be applied

for example.......AIR we breathe

basic human right not to die if we can help it

someone ought to pay me for teaching you folks

jficquette · Feb 9, 2009

Quote from Banff01:

Yeah, I agree that with a nice private insurance you are quite a bit better off in the US than in Canada. That is as long as you have that nice private insurance! Once you get sick and you lose your insurance no company will insure you again. Correct me if I'm wrong about that.

It depends on the state. Some states like California have state programs that will cover you. Other states require them to write prexisting conditions. Georgia is one. I had a pre existing condition in Georgia and Humana wrote the policy, but they wouldn't cover me in California.

Then again you can always get a job that pays for it. Thats the rub for most democrats. They don't like to get jobs.

PaulRon · Feb 9, 2009

I'm Canadian and despire our health care system. Ruptured my appendix and waited 4 hours before surgery.

Mnphats · Feb 9, 2009

Quote from Ribs:

you just don't understand

there are things in this world where monetary value can not be applied

for example.......AIR we breathe

basic human right not to die if we can help it

someone ought to pay me for teaching you folks

I see your point, but monetary value has to be applied especially to health care how else do you pay for entitlements.

Banff01 · Feb 9, 2009

Quote from Ribs:

you just don't understand

there are things in this world where monetary value can not be applied

for example.......AIR we breathe

basic human right not to die if we can help it

someone ought to pay me for teaching you folks

I am with Ribs on this one. You Americans just don't get it. The same goes for guns. You'd rather live in paranoia with a gun in your bed to pretend that you are feeling safe. The same goes for health care. Health care is NOT A BUSINESS. No matter what you do it will always have to be subsidized by the tax money. I repeat: Health care is NOT A BUSINESS! You all think about it. When you get the point you will realize what Canadians have that you don't have. Health care should be a basic human right for everyone - nothing less. Only totally selfish people cannot understand that. It's absolute shame that there is 46.6 million uninsured people in the US, which tries so hard to portray itself as the most developed nation in the world. Probably just a fraction of the money blown on the Iraq war could have fixed your heatlh care system.

moneymonger · Feb 9, 2009

As stated in my earlier post I live in the USA. San Diego,CA to be exact. I have heard on LA radio (KFI am 640) that many countries
with socialised health care will limit access to medical care based
on individual lifestyle choices

verweight, smokes, drinks alcohol
etc. An individual who partakes in a lifestyle choices that the"STATE" deems unhealthy will be denied care. Is this true in
Canada or the UK?

JOSEF · Feb 9, 2009

<I>Then again you can always get a job that pays for it. Thats the rub for most democrats. They don't like to get jobs.</I>

I'm not a Democrat. But we do have a 7.6% unemployment rate bound to get higher.

And many of the jobs that people have do not even pay health insurance.

Banff01 · Feb 9, 2009

Quote from moneymonger:

As stated in my earlier post I live in the USA. San Diego,CA to be exact. I have heard on LA radio (KFI am 640) that many countries
with socialised health care will limit access to medical care based
on individual lifestyle choicesverweight, smokes, drinks alcohol
etc. An individual who partakes in a lifestyle choices that the"STATE" deems unhealthy will be denied care. Is this true in
Canada or the UK?

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Not true for Canada. I don't know about the other countries but I strongly doubt it.