So what happens when the government can no longer borrow?

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swtrader

you know it's coming

sooner than you think

a radical increase in borrowing simply is NOT going to be met with a radical increase in lending - and the first treasury auction balk will be an event that NOBODY will ever forget - not anyone that buys or holds treasurys, anyway

printing only goes so far, you have to have something to dillute, you cant dillute water
 
I remember that Japan had a bond auction in the late 90s that nobody showed up for - 10 year jgb was yielding about 2% at the time. All the JGB bears leapt for joy. 5 years later, JGBs were yielding 0.43%. 10 years later, JGBs are still below 2%.

The US tried every trick in the book to debase the currency and discourage gov't bond investors in the 30s, yet bond yields fell throughout the entire decade.

Until the economy looks like it has something profitable to invest in, folks will continue to buy gov't bonds, no matter what the rate.
 
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I remember that Japan had a bond auction in the late 90s that nobody showed up for - 10 year jgb was yielding about 2% at the time. All the JGB bears leapt for joy. 5 years later, JGBs were yielding 0.43%. 10 years later, JGBs are still below 2%.

The US tried every trick in the book to debase the currency and discourage gov't bond investors in the 30s, yet bond yields fell throughout the entire decade.

Until the economy looks like it has something profitable to invest in, folks will continue to buy gov't bonds, no matter what the rate.
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It all depends on the USD. If the USD holds up OR gold doesn't go substantially higher, bonds will hold up. When you see the USD starting to break down, nobody will buy those bonds.
 
In 1933, FDR devalued the $ from $20.67/oz. to $35/oz. A 75% devaluation overnight! Bond yields fell and continued to fall for the next decade.
 
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They can monetarize the debt. That's real money printing.
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printing is a game of 'stone soup'

gotta have something to dillute

cant dilute water

once they quit lending, it's over
 
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In 1933, FDR devalued the $ from $20.67/oz. to $35/oz. A 75% devaluation overnight! Bond yields fell and continued to fall for the next decade.
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But why did they do that? From what I understand, and I could be wrong, was that gold was held artificially low and they were just bringing it back to equilibrium. Now, gold and the currencies float. Any change now will signal a loss of confidence in the USD.
 
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