So. Carolina To Nullify Obamacare

[jem]

You are playing games. I would not expect the U.S. Supreme Court to say the States don't have to follow U.S. Supreme Court Rulings if they are wrong. would you.

But the Supreme Court gave itself the power of Judicial Review out of thin air.

State Supremacy in non enumerated powers is written into the constitutions itself.

so --

Either the Fed backs down as it is currently on the Medical Marijuana issue.

The state backs down...

or we have a civil war.


The states don't have to care what the Sup Court says if they determine nullification is appropriate.

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

Name one case where a state law has successfully overruled The SC and kept in place a law ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court .

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from jem:

maybe. are you saying the doj and the IRS respond to the political will of the president rather than the duties under the constitution?

seems like you are making the case for states rights and nullification.

Many of the unconstitutional racial and segregation state laws weren't challenged for years jem.Kansas state law establishing segregated schools in the 1870's wasn't challenged until the 1950's.When The SC ruled it unconstitutional the Kansas state law was abolished just like every state law ruled unconstitutional by The SC

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from jem:




The states don't have to care what the Sup Court says if they determine nullification is appropriate.

Yet every time The SC has ruled a state law unconstitutional it is the state law is nullified.Name one time when a state law has stayed in place after being ruled unconstitutional by The SC ?

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from jem:




2. Marbury vs. Madison does not necessarily have to be respected by a state.

Yet you cant name one case when it wasn't

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from jem:



Either the Fed backs down as it is currently on the Medical Marijuana issue.

The Feds have never backed down on the MM issue jem,it has never been challenged or ruled upon by The SC

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from pspr:



“It is going to get us in court, as we all know. But ... it is worth the risk to see if we can protect our state from this far-reaching federal legislation,” state Sen. Kevin Bryant, R-Anderson, one of the lawmakers pushing for the Senate to pass the bill this week before it adjourns for the year.[/I]

Read more here: http://www.thestate.com/2013/06/03/2800482/obamacare-nullification-bill-on.html#storylink=cpy

For the record SC has already conceded they will back down if The SC overrules them

 

[jem]

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

Many of the unconstitutional racial and segregation state laws weren't challenged for years jem.Kansas state law establishing segregated schools in the 1870's wasn't challenged until the 1950's.When The SC ruled it unconstitutional the Kansas state law was abolished just like every state ruled unconstitutional by The SC

we have the 14th amendment and the 13th amendment, its very hard to impossible to argue segregation laws are actually constitutional and therefore valid grounds to say say the sup ct overreached and is therefore subject to nullification.

forcing someone to pay money to a third party is a violation of the constitution in many ways... including a violation of the 13th amendment in my opinion..

Getting around the constitution by calling it a tax is disgraceful.

That is one ruling ripe for nullification.

now will the states to choose to make a stand on this.
that is up to them.

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from pspr:

It is well known that federal laws infringing upon the rights of the states are unconstitutional and can be struck down.

Only if The Supreme Court says its unconstitutional .The Supreme court makes that decision,not the State.The Supreme Court has already made it clear that nullification is unconstitutional

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from jem:



now will the states to choose to make a stand on this.
that is up to them.

As I previously stated jem,SC has already conceded that the courts will decide

“It is going to get us in court, as we all know. But ... it is worth the risk to see if we can protect our state from this far-reaching federal legislation,” state Sen. Kevin Bryant, R-Anderson, one of the lawmakers pushing for the Senate to pass the bill this week before it adjourns for the year.[/I]

Read more here: http://www.thestate.com/2013/06/03/2800482/obamacare-nullification-bill-on.html#storylink=cpy

 

[jem]

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

The Feds have never backed down on the MM issue jem,it has never been challenged or ruled upon by The SC

you are an Obama loon.

it is against Federal law to grow, distribute and sell pot or even possess it. ....

Yet there are medical marijuana shops on street corners and ads for them in the San Diego Reader

There are whole towns growing pot in nor cal.

The Feds have almost completely 100% backed down in the face of nullification by the people.