So atheist's believe it is simpler for the universe to create itself?

[loyek590]

Actually, more like 5+.

But who's counting?

typical science denier
it's all in the Bible, written way before Stephen Hawking
But you can't understand it because you are literalist

You do know that according to Jewish law you must burn down your house if it has green mold, right?

In the beginning God said let there be light, and there was one hell of a big bang, it's all in the Book and has been told over and over around the campfire

the only people who deny it are democrats who are terrified of god, because the Government is their God

at anyrate, if you want to walk out of the jungle just like the Bible tells us man walked out of the Garden of Eden, read a little of the new research from your favorite scientific University. All they do, day after day, year after year is prove the Bible was really right.

 

[dbphoenix]

typical science denier

 

[futurecurrents]

Actually, more like 5+.

But who's counting?

I mean to make life on earth. It was about a billion before the first organisms formed on earth.

 

[Fractals 'R Us]

For people that are willing to look at the question about creation the evidence is pretty muchly undeniable. Not much of what we see can get here by accident or by some "magic of evolution".

Politically the atheists will win the argument every time though. The debate is whether evidence backs up creation or accident but they will reframe it as "science vs religion" and start the namecalling like "science deniers" and all that shit that they do... They have a belief system with trappings of science and it's ridiculous when it's investigated actually but few investigate it.

We find dinosaur bones that are not fossilized and indeed even with flesh intact and they start conjecturing about how the flesh can be preserved for 65 million years!!

 

[jem]

1. you need to check your science fc, its wrong again.
Earth has only been circling the sun for 4.6 billion years give or take according to most scientists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_evolutionary_history_of_life


2. Regarding time vs days of genesis.

After the big bang if the Creator is the observer and is relatively moving away from an object at very close to the speed of light days for one could be billions of years for the other.

Time is relative.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation

In the theory of relativity, time dilation is an actual difference of elapsed time between two events as measured by observers either moving relative to each other or differently situated from gravitational masses.

An accurate clock at rest with respect to one observer may be measured to tick at a different rate when compared to a second observer's own equally accurate clocks. This effect arises neither from technical aspects of the clocks nor from the fact that signals need time to propagate, but from the nature of spacetime itself.

 

[loyek590]

now see, that's what I am talking about, only the science deniers don't believe in God, if you go to the University, many of the new scientists do need god to fill in some holes in their theories. The science deniers won't hear of it, it messes up years of their work. yet the new progressive scientists discuss it daily. Discussing God on ET will get you laughed off the board, but discussing God at Oxford or MIT is just another theory to be taken seriously.

 

[futurecurrents]

1. you need to check your science fc, its wrong again.
Earth has only been circling the sun for 4.6 billion years give or take according to most scientists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_evolutionary_history_of_life


2. Regarding time vs days of genesis.

After the big bang if the Creator is the observer and is relatively moving away from an object at very close to the speed of light days for one could be billions of years for the other.

Time is relative.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation

In the theory of relativity, time dilation is an actual difference of elapsed time between two events as measured by observers either moving relative to each other or differently situated from gravitational masses.

An accurate clock at rest with respect to one observer may be measured to tick at a different rate when compared to a second observer's own equally accurate clocks. This effect arises neither from technical aspects of the clocks nor from the fact that signals need time to propagate, but from the nature of spacetime itself.

I don't need to check anything. 4.6 billion. And at around 3.6 the first life started. That's a billion years for life to start, idiot.

The rest of your post is so stupid as to not even deserve a response.

 

[futurecurrents]

now see, that's what I am talking about, only the science deniers don't believe in God, if you go to the University, many of the new scientists do need god to fill in some holes in their theories. The science deniers won't hear of it, it messes up years of their work. yet the new progressive scientists discuss it daily. Discussing God on ET will get you laughed off the board, but discussing God at Oxford or MIT is just another theory to be taken seriously.

No, discussing God while also discussing cosmology will definitely get you laughed at at MIT and Oxford. Among cosmologists and physicists the belief in God is unusual. The vast majority of them are atheists. God is for dopes.

 

[loyek590]

No, discussing God while also discussing cosmology will definitely get you laughed at at MIT and Oxford. Among cosmologists and physicists the belief in God is unusual. The vast majority of them are atheists. God is for dopes.

well now then, when I was a kid, thunder was explained by god just bowling in the clouds. Now we know better. All of my friends at Oxford and MIT (at least the ones who are cosmologists and physicists) are devout believers. But since you claim to know the vast majority of them, I will take your word for it. You seem to have a big problem with attributing God to the unknown, and I would agree with you, any science denier who does that is a dope.

 

[DHOHHI]

I don't need to check anything. 4.6 billion. And at around 3.6 the first life started. That's a billion years for life to start, idiot.

The rest of your post is so stupid as to not even deserve a response.

Do you have ANGER issues? Ever taken an anger management course? I don't reply to your rants as you seem to be a very volatile, angry and unstable person. You could seek some help .....