Snow because of global warming!

Quote from Tresor:

I see, the best way to discredit the content of a scientist's lecture is by pointing out the lecturer's poor skills of operating a remote control.

How pathetic :confused:

Actually I already pointed out that his graphs are incorrect, which instead of addressing you tried to deflect by stating that I had said something once that I did not.

You didn't even attempt to defend his graphs, cite his graphs, and have displayed no curiosity whatsoever of where his data came from. Therefore I put it in terms you could understand -- why do you trust a guy about climatology when he is not a climatologist and he cannot operate a Powerpoint slide presentation correctly, over NASA?
 
Quote from TGregg:

We've still got piles of global warming from a couple weekends ago, plenty of global warming on the ground from Friday night, and now they are calling for even more global warming to fall tonight and tomorrow in Charlotte.

My second trip ever to Charlotte was near the end of February several years ago. It was sunny and over 70 degrees. I bet we don't have a day like that this month.

If this global warming gets any worse, we're gonna global warm ourselves right into the next ice age.

We had several inches of global warming here in Atlanta a couple of days ago. It looked like a regular <s>winter</s> global warming wonderland. The neighborhood kids all made global warming men in their yards. Many of which are still standing. Not sure why they were all wearing parkas and gloves though.
 
The head of this global warming hoax is saying he wants to kill himself and they have been lying about the past 15 yrs, what a freakin joke. Whoever that Chinese hacker is, you are the man, this is hilarious.
 
Quote from bigdavediode:

That video is just sad.

The guy's a marine geologist, not a climatologist, his second graph appears to be entirely wrong, his first graph uses an inappropriately large sample size for the time periods that humans are concerned about, he can't even use a powerpoint remote control correctly and even then the presentation had to be edited.

Yep, everyone is either uninformed, uneducated, has the wrong background, etc., etc. Sorry your little cult world is falling apart. Being a cultist, it will take nothing short of an Intervention to de-program you. Sad!
 
Listening to a radio broadcast last night, "The Gardening Show". Turns out Vancouver is[ warmer than normal this winter, as flowers are coming up early. The ambient ground temperature indicates earlier planting will be feasible this year, too. Not that gardeners are interested observers of their environment or anything.
 
Quote from bigdavediode:

Actually I already pointed out that his graphs are incorrect, which instead of addressing you tried to deflect by stating that I had said something once that I did not.

Make screenshots of the graphs that you hink is incorrect. So far only you see it.


Quote from bigdavediode:

You didn't even attempt to defend his graphs, cite his graphs, and have displayed no curiosity whatsoever of where his data came from. Therefore I put it in terms you could understand -- why do you trust a guy about climatology when he is not a climatologist and he cannot operate a Powerpoint slide presentation correctly, over NASA?

I trust a number of people who do not operate Powerpoint correctly. And there are a number of people who operate Powerpoint freakishly well yet I would not trust them on anything. So someone's ability to operate a specific software in no way make this person trustable / untrustable.

Regarding NASA, the point the guy made that the sun was responsible for the climate change is in accordance with NASA: http://www.dailytech.com/NASA+Study...Responsible+for+Past+Warming/article15310.htm
 
Quote from bigdavediode:

You didn't even attempt to defend his graphs, cite his graphs, and have displayed no curiosity whatsoever of where his data came from. Therefore I put it in terms you could understand -- why do you trust a guy about climatology when he is not a climatologist and he cannot operate a Powerpoint slide presentation correctly, over NASA?

Here is another Powerpoint presentation by professor Carter. As you can see no problems with operating Powerpoint this time. Cater is a an adjunct research professor in the Marine Geophysical Laboratory at James Cook University, Queensland and the University of Adelaide South Australia, Australia.

He suffieciently debunks hypothesis of CO2 having caused the global warming. I think this time you will have no problem to see where his data come from.

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Quote from Tresor:

Make screenshots of the graphs that you hink is incorrect. So far only you see it.

Umm... no. Science doesn't work that way. You are the one presenting this data, you need to cite your sources so we can see the raw numbers (he doesn't, either.)

I trust a number of people who do not operate Powerpoint correctly. And there are a number of people who operate Powerpoint freakishly well yet I would not trust them on anything. So someone's ability to operate a specific software in no way make this person trustable / untrustable.

Good point -- how about the fact that the guy isn't a climatologist? :)

Regarding NASA, the point the guy made that the sun was responsible for the climate change is in accordance with NASA: http://www.dailytech.com/NASA+Study...Responsible+for+Past+Warming/article15310.htm

Noooooooooooo... here's the actual article rather than a blog: http://www.nasa.gov/topics/solarsystem/features/solar_variability.html -- secondly it's not a "study", thirdly as you can see your blog has terribly misunderstood what it says, and fourthly 2009 was the second hottest year and solar activity is at the lowest point its been in a century.
 
CRU chief: Hey, why don’t bloggers disprove AGW instead of criticizing us?
POSTED FEBRUARY 16, 2010 BY ED MORRISSEY

Dr. Phil Jones, late of the East Anglia CRU, has a bone to pick with bloggers, as the New Scientist blog Short Sharp Science reports today. Does he defend himself by pointing out factual errors from bloggers, who are certain to have made a few, in reporting on the “climategate” scandal and the cascading series of exposed errors from the IPCC report on the “settled science” of anthropogenic global warming (AGW)? Not exactly. Jones rolls out yet another innovative approach to science in which he transfers the burden of proof to skeptics:

Phil Jones, who has temporarily stood aside as the unit’s director, admitted to the journal Nature that his much-criticised failure to keep records about the location of Chinese weather stations used in a major paper was “not acceptable”.

In effect, Jones conceded that British climate sceptic Doug Keenan had been right in some of his criticisms of a 20-year-old paper that had used the Chinese data in an analysis that ruled out local urban influences as a significant factor in global warming.

Jones said he might submit a correction to Nature. But he nonetheless attacked bloggers and other critics for “hijacking the peer-review process… Why don’t they do their own [temperature] reconstructions? If they want to criticise, they should write their own papers,” he said.

Well, let’s see — could it be because we’re not the people advancing extraordinary claims about man-made influence on global weather patterns? This must be some new, previously unknown tenet of the Scientific Method, wherein people who point out errors, bias, bad process, and unsubstantiated claims from scientists are somehow required to disprove their unsupported hypotheses. It’s apparently no longer incumbent on Jones and his colleagues to substantiate their own conjectures with actual science, rather than use badly-lifted speculation from media interviews and unsupported propaganda from advocacy groups.

Speaking of which, it’s interesting to note that Jones admits he got his paper wrong on which Jones bases his analyses of weather-station data, bit only might submit a correction. Bloggers usually do better than that when they get facts incorrect. Jones, who may have to permanently leave his position after the exposure of political kneecapping within the CRU of skeptics, might want to consider raising his ethics to at least meet those of the group he’s criticizing at the moment.

Maybe Jones and his team should have stuck to doing actual science rather than plotting to hide declines and silence critics while running the CRU. At least he’d still have a job.

Update: A little more evidence that the consensus has started to, er, melt away:

Three large corporations are quitting the U.S. Climate Action Partnership, a broad group of businesses and environmental organizations that has been instrumental in building support in Washington for capping U.S. emissions of greenhouse gases.

Oil giants BP PLC and ConocoPhillips along with Caterpillar, Inc., the Peoria, Ill., heavy-equipment maker, have decided against renewing their membership in the organization, according to a statement released by the group Tuesday.

Red Cavaney, ConocoPhillips senior vice president for government affairs, said USCAP was focused on getting a climate-change bill passed, whereas Conoco is increasingly concerned with what the details of such a bill would be.
 
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