Smith Barney FA Math Test and Opportunity

Any advice on how to get started, I am decent with html and advanced with Excel and Tradestation Easy Language?

Courses etc???

Quote from RedDuke:

If your main goal is 100K+ income, it would be much easier to acheive it inprogramming than cold calling. Any decent (not great)
java or c developer can get 100K.
 
Quote from BenBerggreen:

I am still weighing my options and appreciate your comments. They offer 50K per year for the first 2 years, plus commish and bonus, not sure if that is standard. My background is buy side equity trader for mutual funds for 10 years. The problem is that those jobs are evaporating due to technology and the firms moving the intl desk to the local markets. Sucks....

Realistically, how long will it take to bring home 100k+ as a financial advisor?

I really enjoy programming and web design work as well, so maybe I'll go that direction instead. In fact, basically every hedge fund trading job now requires some serious programming skills in C++, Java and the like.

Man, I am a confused dude...

You're taking a step down if you go for Financial Advisor. It is an oversaturated industry with little barrier to entry.

Take the job, collect the first year salary but expect a change of profession. Unless you get lucky and land a few quality clients.

Being a broker is probably the coolest job, IF you got the clientele.
 
Quote from RedDuke:

If your main goal is 100K+ income, it would be much easier to acheive it inprogramming than cold calling. Any decent (not great)
java or c developer can get 100K.

Not the goal, the minimum I need to pay the bills.
 
Ben,

The best way to get into IT world is to find a school in your area, something that focuses on getting you the job at the end, and take a crush course there. It probably will be something that runs during evenings and weekends, where developers who have day jobs teach at night. You need someone like this to teach you how real world programming works.

The school probably will not get you the job, but these days looking through monster, hotjobs and dice can get you interviews.

One of the highest paid areas in IT these days is SAP (German company). Not difficult to learn at well.

You will also need to be creative on your resume after graduation.

Regards,
redduke
 
Unless you can pull in a lot of high net worth clients, I think the days of making a ton in financial planning are over. With hundreds of shops out there the comissions have been cut so much that it takes twice the book to make the same amount.

I interned at a "big name" firm and the old guys did nothing but kick back with their 100+ Mil book while the young guys were severely struggling to pull in assets. Typically the way it works is they front you the cash for two years and after the training program you go on 100% comission.

The hard part for young people like us is cold calling doesnt work as well as the "old days" and trying to talk some 55 year old doctor into leting "some kid" manage his millions is no easy task.

Maybe the movie boiler room could teach you something? :D
 
Quote from The Arbitrager:

Unless you can pull in a lot of high net worth clients, I think the days of making a ton in financial planning are over. With hundreds of shops out there the comissions have been cut so much that it takes twice the book to make the same amount.

I interned at a "big name" firm and the old guys did nothing but kick back with their 100+ Mil book while the young guys were severely struggling to pull in assets. Typically the way it works is they front you the cash for two years and after the training program you go on 100% comission.

The hard part for young people like us is cold calling doesnt work as well as the "old days" and trying to talk some 55 year old doctor into leting "some kid" manage his millions is no easy task.

Maybe the movie boiler room could teach you something? :D

The age is not my problem, at 37 lean and mean, I don't have a problem reflecting a positive image. Problem is, I don't feel like working my ass off for someone else (been there, done that). You see, being a buy side trader is the most cushiony job out there that pays well into the six figures. Now I am having a hard time readjusting to the mediocre pay scales for most other jobs. So I thought maybe a commission based position at a big firm could cover my needs, but it seems like I am wrong. Maybe I'll be a pole dancer instead

Hmm, I need to do some serious reflecting:eek:
 
Quote from BenBerggreen:

The age is not my problem, at 37 lean and mean, I don't have a problem reflecting a positive image. Problem is, I don't feel like working my ass off for someone else (been there, done that). You see, being a buy side trader is the most cushiony job out there that pays well into the six figures. Now I am having a hard time readjusting to the mediocre pay scales for most other jobs. So I thought maybe a commission based position at a big firm could cover my needs, but it seems like I am wrong. Maybe I'll be a pole dancer instead

Hmm, I need to do some serious reflecting:eek:

BEN,

with all honest respect, why don´t you think about establishing your own little "hedgefund shop" ? 2 % Management Fee, 25 / 35 / 43 % incentive fees - doesn´t it sound good to earn your living ?

A.S.
 
Quote from ASusilovic:

BEN,

with all honest respect, why don´t you think about establishing your own little "hedgefund shop" ? 2 % Management Fee, 25 / 35 / 43 % incentive fees - doesn´t it sound good to earn your living ?

A.S.

Thanks for the tip, I have been working on that actually. I have the strategy and the results, but no backer. I found that without at least a few mill in the account people don't take you seriously. So until then, I have to find something else, unless you have the dosh and are willing to take a chance on a total stranger...
 
If you are interested in the IT side, look into data mining or information security.

Your dollar yearly figure is easily achievable in info sec.

Good luck.
 
i was head quant for a smith barney office and i didn't take a math test. that's why we have computers, they made me make them some money that was my test. mb

oh now btw there were some fancy clothes wearing guys in some other offices who probably did have to take a math test i bet. but i would avoid those offices cause that's more sales. you want to be in a trading office.
 
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