SMB Capital New York

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Quote from NorwegianTrader:

In his book he says they would like to use algo-trading in the future, so I guess it's possible now.

To all you guys claiming 10k for a training course is a scam. Seriously, 10k?? I'm no "big swinging dick" but still, 10k is not a huge amount in this business. They don't have to teach you very much to make you save this amount in the future.

They don't have to teach very much, may be just tell u to trade small size and keep small ....
So why does it cost 10k?
 
Quote from newbie2010now:

Hippie:

I agree with you on this one.They should advertise as a trading school ONLY , where you learn some basics for $ 10,000 and then they give you a trading account ( which you actually deposited $ 10,000 ) and now they dont let you to loose all in one day by limiting your daily loss to $ 50.00_ $ 100.00.

lots of prop firm they allow you to access to firm leverage when you open an account with them with 3K_7K and they give you 10 to 100K buying power.

With all CBSX firms including Coastal, T3, Dimension, Star Alliance Capital,and i believe broadway trading ( if they still in business) you can open an account ang get between 10 - 20 - 30 times BP.

WTS lets you to open an account with only $ 1500.00 and they give you leverage BUT i dont suggest any one to go near them , they dont have good reviews at all.

When you get in , you will learn alot from other traders mistakes and that is a free education for you . No need to pay 10K for training.

and Yes it is better that SMB stop to advertise JOB when they actually run a training school and every "JOB seekers as they claim" need to pay 10 K first to get that JOB !

This is a false advertisement but they are certainly not a SCAM

Cheers All

What is false advertising? Is that a SCAM!

Your training fee becomes their capital , and they a cut if u make any money from it. Loss you are to pay more. As an employer, they are not taking any risk on you, and have very little interest in your making it. They looking for the next sucker who would fork over 10k.

By the way, teh 10k account to "give" you is consider their money even though it is actually money you gave them. In cases where a prop takes a "risk deposit" instead of a "training fee", the money is still yours unless you lose it.

SMB is setup to pocket your 10k before you even have a chance to paper trade with them. I read on another board about, their training is not good according to several who went thru it.
 
Here is the WTS deal I looked up

http://wtsprop.com/news/events.html

You have a capital contribution of 1,500 - there is no trading fees. There give 30 hrs of free training if you are selected.

Training fees goes right into their pocket. Capital contribution is yours unless you lose it.


Looks like a much more honest prop shop to me.
 
Quote from hippie:

Here is the WTS deal I looked up

http://wtsprop.com/news/events.html

You have a capital contribution of 1,500 - there is no trading fees. There give 30 hrs of free training if you are selected.

Training fees goes right into their pocket. Capital contribution is yours unless you lose it.


Looks like a much more honest prop shop to me.

I know lots of people went to WTS and they not there any more. ( WhY?) yes they lost their money.

I know alot of people they went to other trading firm , they also lost their money ! but they stayed there

Yes a new trader will loose his money till he get enough experience so he can find what is the best trading strategy for him.

If you start as a new trader and join ANY PROP FIRM you will loose your initial capital this is part of the game so dont come here and accuse those firm that they are nothing but a SCAM.

take responsibility of your action .

A trader must burn at lease twice and wipe out the whole account before he learn how to make money.

Trading is not easy , SMB education and useless chat rooms of T3 will just help you to show the way and HELP YOU to get there faster, You can not learn these from a book you must be in the environment , you must be next to other traders and learn from their mistake and you try not make those mistakes.
 
Quote from newbie2010now:
A trader must burn at lease twice and wipe out the whole account before he learn how to make money. [/B]

Shit, I'm glad a better training method was developed for pilots. Can you imagine if becoming a competent pilot meant you had to crash at least two planes?
 
Quote from newbie2010now:

I know lots of people went to WTS and they not there any more. ( WhY?) yes they lost their money.


A trader must burn at lease twice and wipe out the whole account before he learn how to make money.

Trading is not easy , SMB education and useless chat rooms of T3 will just help you to show the way and HELP YOU to get there faster, You can not learn these from a book you must be in the environment , you must be next to other traders and learn from their mistake and you try not make those mistakes.

You are either a shill or a fool to pay 10k to be told how to trade small to start and protect your capital. Do you need to give away 10k to be in the environment when you can do so with 1500 with WTS, not only that, this 1500 is remains yours unless you lose it.

Tell me how many of those who pay 10k to be with SMB is still there after 1 year, after 2 years? And how many of them make a living doing so? I bet the odds is as bad, if not worse, that WTS or the real props that doesn't charge you a trading fee.
 
Quote from Roark:

Shit, I'm glad a better training method was developed for pilots. Can you imagine if becoming a competent pilot meant you had to crash at least two planes?

Eaxctly......lol
 
Quote from newbie2010now:


I WOULD SAY A NO NO TO TWS

TWS = A CHOP SHOP

maybe you are a shill for TWS !

WTS, not TWS.

TWS is the software platform used by Interactive Brokers.
 
Quote from Roark:

Shit, I'm glad a better training method was developed for pilots. Can you imagine if becoming a competent pilot meant you had to crash at least two planes?

Amen. That's why they get that 10k from you up front, before you can piss it away.
 
This is so sad, I thought they are a legit trading firm because they were on the TV show. Turns out they are using the reputation to scam trader wannabes now.
 
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