SILVER INVESTORS: Take off your Tin Foil Hats!

Quote from Hydroblunt:

Assuming you are up more than the margin hike and also have not used it in any other positions. Which is the minority. The majority were not up more than the margin and also do not generally let a lot of margin go to waste.

Now plug in a CTA, hedge fund or active futures trader. If you think that the margin hike had no effect on motivating them to sell, then I have a bridge to sell you.

Hydroblunt, I'm not averse to your mad blunt smoking ways, but I respectfully disagree with you.

DO SOME RESEARCH ON CTAs.

Most have a margin-to-equity ratio for maybe 10-35%, TOPS! Sign up for BarclayHedge or Altegris...the latter is free.

You'll see what I mean.

Silver futures were up like $125,000 per contract from the start of the year...... They $5k to $10k increase in margin requirements, spread out over several days, was not responsible for the liquidation.

IF IT WAS......how would you explain crude oil's 10% drop on the back of NO margin hike?

Sorry, guys, but sometimes the answer is very simple & apparent.

:)
 
Quote from olias:

I don't think that's a dumb question. Although I've seen the market turn time after time when margins are raised, I'm still not sure I understand why it happens. All things equal, I would expect the shorts to be the ones feeling the heat of the increased margins more than the longs.

Not saying I'm right; it's just my idea. Can someone show me the error of my thinking?
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Mr O;
Long story short;
same reason they[our banker/exchanger friends] made houses in Nashville TN harder to buy[required more /larger down payment].

Actually its exactly that simple;
if still not clear, talk to a real estate investor or appriaser about supply & demand........Simply fewor none posted an account statement;
its speculation/ guessing who is long or short.

Or simply accept the fact exchanges or bankers MUCH prefer higher volume/comissions;
but RESPECT RISK.[RR, repeat that /RR]

I think mr Bunker Hunt perhaps did not like margins raised also [suprise, suprise,LOL; but all trends tend to correct/counter-TREND;
and silver MAY resume UP-trend again.What a cool name, Bunker Hunt. I like to hunt also.Not a prediction.

murray TT;
respecting risk, as exchanges do, that like to stay in business....
 
Quote from Chicago_CTA:

$29.36 IS SUPPORT ON JULY SILVER, IN MY OPINION.

Those without tin-foil hats should wait till that level to bid.

What a bloodbath in oil today!!!!!!!!!

HEY, WAIT A MINUTE! CME DIDN'T RAISE MARGINS ON CRUDE OIL...............SO HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?!

IT MUST BE A CONSPIRACY! THERE IS NO CRUDE OIL IN CUSHING, OKLAHOMA! CONVERT YOUR PAPER OIL TO PHYSICAL OIL!!!! THE USD TO NOTHING!!!!!!!


:D :D :D :D

I love you guys.


You are starting to sound as shrill and idiotic as some of the so-called "tin-foil" hatters you enjoy deriding. Who the hell are these tin-foil hatters anyway? If you would get your head out of your ass and do some research around the web, you would find some established long term traders have the same suspicions. The dollar rally is technical from an oversold condition.
 
Quote from Chicago_CTA:


IF IT WAS......how would you explain crude oil's 10% drop on the back of NO margin hike?

Versus Silver's 30% drop? LOL What?

The correction was overdue but this is more than motivated by the margin hikes. And regardless, the physical market is barely reacting.
 
Quote from Larson:

You are starting to sound as shrill and idiotic as some of the so-called "tin-foil" hatters you enjoy deriding. Who the hell are these tin-foil hatters anyway? If you would get your head out of your ass and do some research around the web, you would find some established long term traders have the same suspicions. The dollar rally is technical from an oversold condition, duh.

We do more research in a month than you probably do in a year.

MANY people, myself included, believe the banking cartel wish to suppress the prices of gold & silver, because a rising price undermines faith in fiat money.

HOWEVER, any "established long term trader" who has enjoyed ANY DEGREE OF SUCCESS, who believes silver has fallen NOT BECAUSE IT had resistance at $50 after a parabolic run-up, but because margins increased on a market that has daily ranges of $10,000-$25,000 is a F$CKING IDIOT!

The comex is not out to get you, fool.

They raised margins because the contract value became close to $250,000 and there are days now where silver will have a $3 - $5 movement.....$15,000 to $25,000.

They're protecting the marketplace and I support htem in that. Should've raised margins even higher.

To answer your question, friend: The tin foil hatters are out there..on this site...and also busy commenting on ZeroHedge and CNBC.com.

I'm not a mean guy...




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But how much of a Dumb-ass must one be to blame COMEX for silver failing at $50? It was multi-year resistance! Disappointing if one wears a tin foil hat, but HARDLY a shocker!
 
Quote from Hydroblunt:

Versus Silver's 30% drop? LOL What?

The correction was overdue but this is more than motivated by the margin hikes. And regardless, the physical market is barely reacting.


Silver eagles offered now at $38.....which is $3 over July Futures.

YOu're clearly an imbecile. The physical market is barely reacting?

It's moving in lockstep with futures! LOL


AMBROCE BIERCE in the Devil's Dictionary say a FANATIC IS...

A PERSON WHO WON'T CHANGE HIS MIND, AND CAN'T CHANGE THE SUBJECT.


You silver tin-foil hatters who think the banking cartel is out to get you are just plain FOOLISH.


Chicago CTA OUT!

:P

Happy Cinco de Mayo
 
Quote from Chicago_CTA:

We do more research in a month than you probably do in a year.

MANY people, myself included, believe the banking cartel wish to suppress the prices of gold & silver, because a rising price undermines faith in fiat money.

HOWEVER, any "established long term trader" who has enjoyed ANY DEGREE OF SUCCESS, who believes silver has fallen NOT BECAUSE IT had resistance at $50 after a parabolic run-up, but because margins increased on a market that has daily ranges of $10,000-$25,000 is a F$CKING IDIOT!

The comex is not out to get you, fool.

They raised margins because the contract value became close to $250,000 and there are days now where silver will have a $3 - $5 movement.....$15,000 to $25,000.

They're protecting the marketplace and I support htem in that. Should've raised margins even higher.

To answer your question, friend: The tin foil hatters are out there..on this site...and also busy commenting on ZeroHedge and CNBC.com.

I'm not a mean guy...




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But how much of a Dumb-ass must one be to blame COMEX for silver failing at $50? It was multi-year resistance! Disappointing if one wears a tin foil hat, but HARDLY a shocker!


Like I said, do some research outside your sphere and see what some established traders have said, and I am not speaking about two-bit sites such as Zero-Hedge. You have an agenda pal, and that is obvious, despite whichever direction silver moves. I know bullshit when I hear it.
 
Quote from Larson:

Like I said, do some research outside your sphere and see what some established traders have said, and I am not speaking about two-bit sites such as Zero-Hedge. You have an agenda pal, and that is obvious, despite whichever direction silver moves. I know bullshit when I hear it.


Larson,
please PM me with links if you have some good material. I'll return in kind.

I've already stated MULTIPLE times I'm a precious metals bull; but I'm also a career trader and understand Support/Resistance.

ANYONE ELSE...feel free to PM me as well. I hold no grudges & wish everyone here success, in whatever form it may be.

Chi.
 
Quote from Chicago_CTA:

Larson,
please PM me with links if you have some good material. I'll return in kind.

I've already stated MULTIPLE times I'm a precious metals bull; but I'm also a career trader and understand Support/Resistance.

ANYONE ELSE...feel free to PM me as well. I hold no grudges & wish everyone here success, in whatever form it may be.

Chi.


I sent you one. All the best.
 
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