Significant Reduction in Petroleum / Gasoline Prices, HOW?

What can you do to make these oil prices reasonable?

  • Take economic action?

    Votes: 12 28.6%

  • Take political action?

    Votes: 3 7.1%

  • Do both?

    Votes: 10 23.8%

  • Do nothing?

    Votes: 17 40.5%
  • Total voters
    42
  • Poll closed .
A great, and frightening article:

http://www.energybulletin.net/15126.html

A quote:

Kenneth Deffeyes, using a method called Hubbert Linearization (HL), estimated that the world crossed the 50% of (conventional crude + condensate) Qt mark in December, 2005. According to the EIA, December 2005 was the all time record high for world crude + condensate production. The latest data, for January, 2006, show a decline of about 500,000 bpd.
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I think I remember that prediction, and yes it did happen before Dec 2005.
 
bush could drop gas prices tomorrow by 50 cents a gallon. all he has to do is sign an executive order under his emergency powers to roll back the environmental regulations for 2 years. that would allow the us to import gasoline. that is what they did after katrina hit and gas did fall until they reinstated the regulations.
 
Quote from DrChaos:


6) Most importantly: SCIENCE-BASED POLITICS, NOT JINGOISM-BASED FASCIST-BASED OR FAITH-BASED.
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I knew something like this comment was in the wings, as it were.....
 
Quote from cajunboy:

Stop using so much oil products............

Called supply and demand

Get rid of your tank SUV............

reduce the number of Chinese and Indian population so they stop the strain on oil demand,,,,,,,,,,

Simple stuff, not American politics, that is for stupid opinions

IMHO
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so many building products, used here and abroad are petroleum based in origin that just eliminating vehicular usage would not dampen the overall global demands curve

also, think of the PVC revolution in piping compared to the previous generation of metal and composite based piping....

also, think of your building wraps (Tyvex, etc.), plastic bags and tarps, etc...

its not just for Americans,

its for whomever purchases these fabricated products, and those consumers are without borders, as this is global in demand and nature....

conversion to alternative fuels,
removal of the prohibition from imported gasoline....

two immediate solutions, as others mentioned.....

where's that phone number to my State Senator's hotline?
 
Quote from dis:

No to worry: an imminent World War over control of the oil fields will significantly reduce global oil consumption. Of course, we could reduce oil demand by building nuclear power generating facilities, but because (repeat three times) NUKES KILL! we would much rather do it the old-fashioned way - by eliminating surplus oil consumers.
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until electricity is packaged into its plasma form and transfered to the vehicular sector, then alternative power generation plants (nuclear, wind, solar, water based power generators) will serve to address the demand curve components that use their source of power.

simply put, until powerful enough and stable enough or inert batteries are made available to consumer automobiles, trucks and transportation fleets, other than just transportation fleets in major cities, then this switch off of petoleum based products will have little effect on the "prices at the pump"

you can't convert MPG's from Nuclear generation...

you can't convert solar, wind or water generation into driving patterns, whether to the shopping mall, to the bank, to the job, to school or otherwise...
 
Quote from 9999:

Call me jaded, but I think that Congress could care less about the American people. Solution: start brewing your own moonshine!
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gimme a tall one, tender......

no,

make that a double....
 
Quote from DrChaos:

huh?

gasoline imports are not banned.

After Katrina, a fair number of overseas refineries sent their product to the US.
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vhehn


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New Post 04-22-06 12:47 PM

bush could drop gas prices tomorrow by 50 cents a gallon. all he has to do is sign an executive order under his emergency powers to roll back the environmental regulations for 2 years. that would allow the us to import gasoline. that is what they did after katrina hit and gas did fall until they reinstated the regulations.
 
Sorry for double post. A large fraction of petroleum use is burned as transportation.

I found a 2004 publicatoion from the EIA.

Transportation use is 13.6 mbpd (million barrels per day),

all industrial uses (unclear what this means) is 5.1, "residential/commercial" 1.3, and Electric power.

Later on it says that chemical manufacturing uses of petroleum (including natural gas liquids) are 1.5 mbpd. So that's about 10% of transportation use.

We ought to save petroleum for chemistry---it is really useful for all sorts of great things.
 
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