Sick of Nothingburger

Absolutely. It works beautifully in Scandinavia, Switzerland, France, Germany, Japan and many other countries. Unhinged Capitalism has spectacularly failed, so has unhinged socialism/communism. A social market economy as is practiced in above countries has proven the most successful so far. The straw man's argument of the Right that benefiting the rich which in turn trickle down their blessings on the rest of the population is a grand lie, has never worked and will never work. Nor is the argument an honest one that less government and more self determination is better. Look at the early Americas, look at what happens each time you give people plenty of choices: They take their guns and bats, hit each other on the head to strike our their "competitors". What we need is a BIG government, lots of regulations, and hammer the head of those bad nails in to align with all the other nails. That is what works best.

Re, Obama at least he provided 23 million Americans with a path to health insurance. That is a massive number in a country of 350 or so million people. Has Trump benefited anyone in the middle class? None. Has he tackled the pharmaceutical industry that overcharges on every medication there is? Fact is that most pharmaceutical companies will do fantastically well even when you force them to slash their cost by 80-90 percent, a price reduction that would put the cost of health care about in the ballpark of international standards. What you currently have is a broken system that benefits only the rich that do not care whether a surgery costs 5,000 or 500,000. For them those numbers are toys, peanuts. For most other mortals those numbers make the difference between getting a surgery or dying. Universal heath care is the way to go as proven in unaccountably many countries.
If you want to give universal healthcare to the population, you should at the very, very, least, tackle bloated costs of insurance first. The US has the highest healthcare costs in the world. Fix that, then work on getting everyone involved, not the other way around. That is pretty straight forward. Obamacare was a stupid way to fix the underlying issue.

As far as big government, you should travel to Cuba, Venezuela and China, and ask the people what they think about 'big government' and more 'regulations'. You might learn something.
 
ouch, so much hatred.

divide people into classes and then explain why other classes have it better and your class has it bad. takes a whole lifetime to explain that tired old way of thinking. I can teach a kid how to live class free with nothing but a pitcher of lemonade in 5 minutes,, and I'll loan him money to get started
keep your commie trash in the shit hole you live in and stay out of America
 
Cuba, Venezuela suffer from other issues, called corruption. China is running a pretty tight ship, most people are quite satisfied and happy. Maybe you should give them some credit given the base they started off from, the Chinese economic miracle is orders of magnitude higher than anything the US and Americans have gone through.

On healthcare, so, why is nobody tackling the high healthcare costs in the US? Why is this not even on Trump's agenda? Care to enlighten me?

If you want to give universal healthcare to the population, you should at the very, very, least, tackle bloated costs of insurance first. The US has the highest healthcare costs in the world. Fix that, then work on getting everyone involved, not the other way around. That is pretty straight forward. Obamacare was a stupid way to fix the underlying issue.

As far as big government, you should travel to Cuba, Venezuela and China, and ask the people what they think about 'big government' and more 'regulations'. You might learn something.
 
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Absolutely. It works beautifully in Scandinavia, Switzerland, France, Germany, Japan and many other countries. Unhinged Capitalism has spectacularly failed, so has unhinged socialism/communism. A social market economy as is practiced in above countries has proven the most successful so far. The straw man's argument of the Right that benefiting the rich which in turn trickle down their blessings on the rest of the population is a grand lie, has never worked and will never work. Nor is the argument an honest one that less government and more self determination is better. Look at the early Americas, look at what happens each time you give people plenty of choices: They take their guns and bats, hit each other on the head to strike our their "competitors". What we need is a BIG government, lots of regulations, and hammer the head of those bad nails in to align with all the other nails. That is what works best.

Re, Obama at least he provided 23 million Americans with a path to health insurance. That is a massive number in a country of 350 or so million people. Has Trump benefited anyone in the middle class? None. Has he tackled the pharmaceutical industry that overcharges on every medication there is? Fact is that most pharmaceutical companies will do fantastically well even when you force them to slash their cost by 80-90 percent, a price reduction that would put the cost of health care about in the ballpark of international standards. What you currently have is a broken system that benefits only the rich that do not care whether a surgery costs 5,000 or 500,000. For them those numbers are toys, peanuts. For most other mortals those numbers make the difference between getting a surgery or dying. Universal heath care is the way to go as proven in unaccountably many countries.
Hilarious.
You clearly have no idea how or why America became some great.

Amazing how some push the idea of Big Government as being a precursor to economic prosperity.
Lack of education I suppose.
 
Healthcare in America is free for the poor and the elderly. What more do you want? It was affordable before the Affordable Care Act. If we took all the money we spend on military defending socialist countries we could buy pills for everyone. Healthcare is improved by removing government involvement. Once you get the governments greedy hands out of it costs come down. If you want the government to lower costs why not start on something simple, like a pack of cigarettes?
 
If you don't qualify for medicaid the government has determined you are not poor. If you don't qualify for Medicare the government has determined you are not elderly.

False.You obviously don't know how medicaid works in republican states that turned down Obamacares medicaid expansion.Before Obamacares medicaid expansion nearly all states had requirements like those listed below.



https://www.benefits.gov/benefits/benefit-details/1640



Program Description

Medicaid is the state and federal cooperative venture that provides medical coverage to eligible needy persons. The purpose of Medicaid in Texas is to improve the health of people in Texas who might otherwise go without medical care for themselves and their children.
The mission of the program is to improve the health of Texans by:
· Emphasizing prevention
· Promoting continuity of care
· Providing a medical home for Medicaid recipients
· Ensuring that each recipient can receive high quality, comprehensive health care services within the recipient's community

General Program Requirements

In order to qualify for this benefit program, you must be a resident of the state of Texas, a U.S. national, citizen, permanent resident, or legal alien, in need of health care/insurance assistance, whose financial situation would be characterized as low income or very low income. You must also be either pregnant, a parent or relative caretaker of a dependent child(ren) under age 19, blind, have a disability or a family member in your household with a disability, or be 65 years of age or older.
 
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