Sick Feeling

Sure ok. Lets be nieve and say that the people behind saddam are not scared shitless of him! They just follow him out of enthusiasm, not the acid torture tanks that he will put you in if you fuck up.


Quote from Lobster:



The intelligent ones are. The majority follows out of enthusiasm.
 
Quote from bobcathy1:

rs7....I really miss the 60's. I hope in my mind I have not truly left them behind.
It is interesting being exposed to the cynical and critical younger generation on the chat boards. They really have their heads up their butts. No concept of truth or inner peace. They all grew up on video games. Maybe that is why they can look at pictures of a real war and not find it upsetting. Somewhere along the way they lost their souls.

You seem to be awfully selective in your sympathies. Did you stop trading while Milosevich was slaughtering people right and left? Do you stop trading when the Haitians are into mischief? Did you stop trading everytime the IRA set off a bomb, or do you now stop trading whenever the Palestinians or the Israelis blow each other up?

You're romanticizing this as if it were a movie from the 40s. This is nothing compared to Korea, nothing compared to Viet Nam. If all this bothers you so much, do something about it.

--Db
 
Quote from compisnada2002:

They may be some innocent people hangin out with somebody who is not that innocent who is the target of this campaign. This is war not tiddley winks!



That is true, and it is also not an act of terrorism to kill Saddam's daughter by accident. But what the US did was send bombs to homes for one reason only, namely that Saddam's daughters were thoght to be located there, not Saddam himself. He was supposed to be in the other facility, which they blew up as well.

The difference is intentions, not effects. If a pilot had had a heart attack and flown a plane into the world trade center, it would not have been terrorism. What made it terrorism was that it was meant to kill innocent people.
 
On things I would like to have seen in this war:

1. A clear statement by President Bush that the US has no designs whatever on the Iraqi oil fields and that the US expects to pay the usual and ordinary market driven world prices for oil.

2. Americans are generous. I would like to have seen something appropriate on the networks by the Red Cross or other relief agencies so that those inclined can give to Iraqi relief efforts.

3. Some better explanation for this Awe and Shock business. I'm a hawk but this is making me uneasy because it seems like a rout. I would prefer to know those angles of this program that are designed to protect our invading forces, etc. This just looks like 5M+ people being terrorized.

Donald Rumsfeld's telling me this isn't anything like the bombing of the German cities because the munitions are improved just doesn't help much because that's exactly what it brings to mind when I look at TV.

Geo.
 
Quote from bobcathy1:

rs7....I really miss the 60's. I hope in my mind I have not truly left them behind.
It is interesting being exposed to the cynical and critical younger generation on the chat boards. They really have their heads up their butts. No concept of truth or inner peace. They all grew up on video games. Maybe that is why they can look at pictures of a real war and not find it upsetting. Somewhere along the way they lost their souls.

What a laugh. The younger generation you speak of is YOUR kids, but you don't even recognize that.

Your generation has been a disaster, especially when it comes to raising kids. Seriously, I hope Tom Brokaw writes a book called The Worst Generation, where he talks about the self-absorbed children of the sixties who embraced greed and materialism with enthusiasm in adulthood, and then passed these values down to their own children - except these spoiled adults can't even recognize their self-absorption.

PTR
 
Quote from dbphoenix:


You're romanticizing this as if it were a movie from the 40s. This is nothing compared to Korea, nothing compared to Viet Nam. If all this bothers you so much, do something about it.

--Db

Very pragmatic advice! I personally think the world would be a better place if more people DID care when others are killed. But that's a moot point, since the world will never be a nice place. It's an arena of genes battling each other with tools like humans. Not more, not less.
 
Quote from PoundTheRock:



What a laugh. The younger generation you speak of is YOUR kids, but you don't even recognize that.

Your generation has been a disaster, especially when it comes to raising kids. Seriously, I hope Tom Brokaw writes a book called The Worst Generation, where he talks about the self-absorbed children of the sixties who embraced greed and materialism with enthusiasm in adulthood, and then passed these values down to their own children - except these spoiled adults can't even recognize their self-absorption.

PTR

Very true, except for one point: Are you sure the specific people you are talking to were cruel enough to make childen?
 
That is a very valid point. But that still doesnt mean we should think that he may not be there. Does the fact that he may use his doughters as human shields cross your mind? Well it does for me, and let me ask you this, what in the hell are his doughters still hangin around for? They should have trekked there sorry asses to a remote location where they were not in the middle of all this madness.

Quote from Lobster:



That is true, and it is also not an act of terrorism to kill Saddam's daughter by accident. But what the US did was send bombs to homes for one reason only, namely that Saddam's daughters were thoght to be located there, not Saddam himself. He was supposed to be in the other facility, which they blew up as well.

The difference is intentions, not effects. If a pilot had had a heart attack and flown a plane into the world trade center, it would not have been terrorism. What made it terrorism was that it was meant to kill innocent people.
 
Quote from PoundTheRock:



What a laugh. The younger generation you speak of is YOUR kids, but you don't even recognize that.

Your generation has been a disaster, especially when it comes to raising kids. Seriously, I hope Tom Brokaw writes a book called The Worst Generation, where he talks about the self-absorbed children of the sixties who embraced greed and materialism with enthusiasm in adulthood, and then passed these values down to their own children - except these spoiled adults can't even recognize their self-absorption.

PTR

You hit the nail right on the head, PTR. We're responsible for all of this, yet none of us are willing to assume the responsibility. When it came right down to it, we were far more interested in sex and drugs than we were in changing the world. After we pulled out of Viet Nam, we got bored. Tom Hayden went into politics and Jane Fonda started producing exercise videos. And that was all there was to that.

The children of the sixties are in charge, including the legislatures and the corporate offices. Those who whine about it are just being self-indulgent.

--Db
 
I agree, they are so out of touch with reality that it is disturbing. I am so glad that my parents did not bring me up like that. Continue to fight the trend and you will find none of your methods work becouse the way it should be is never the way it is.




Quote from PoundTheRock:



What a laugh. The younger generation you speak of is YOUR kids, but you don't even recognize that.

Your generation has been a disaster, especially when it comes to raising kids. Seriously, I hope Tom Brokaw writes a book called The Worst Generation, where he talks about the self-absorbed children of the sixties who embraced greed and materialism with enthusiasm in adulthood, and then passed these values down to their own children - except these spoiled adults can't even recognize their self-absorption.

PTR
 
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