Shroud Of Turin Determined From Time Of Jesus

[MarketMasher]

BTW, the historical provenance of the Sudarium can be reliably traced back even further than the Shroud.

It is an oddity in itself that the two artifacts even survived, as being in possession of an item covered in a dead man's blood was against Jewish law, and whoever took them for safe-keeping was in grave peril for doing so.

 

[LEAPup]

Quote from pspr:

Yes the repairs and the smoke damage invalidated some previous tests.

There was also a pollen species examination of the cloth that determined it had been in the area of Jesus' crucifixion at some time.

And it is just incredible that the method used to imprint the image cannot be ascertained nor duplicated by scientists.

Again, there is evidence ALL AROUND documenting the life of Jesus. The Shroud is what I'd call another "smoking gun" when it comes to evidence...

 

[pspr]

Quote from LEAPup:

Again, there is evidence ALL AROUND documenting the life of Jesus. The Shroud is what I'd call another "smoking gun" when it comes to evidence...

Yes, it's not the shroud that proves the life of Jesus. Historians have found plenty of evidence that he lived. The shroud is just further probable evidence that something miraculous happened. If it didn't exist that would mean nothing as far as Christianity is concerned.

 

[MarketMasher]

Quote from stu:

Yeah I can.

It's ok.

Don't be upset if someone challenges your faith.

Rather, look at it as an opportunity to examine it more closely with a critical eye...

 

[Dustin]

As an atheist I'm hoping you can provide some scientific historical evidence, that would be great. From everything I've read there is no written word of Jesus until nearly 50 years after death by Paul who neglected to write anything about the now common knowledge of Jesus. It wasn't' until 20 years later (70 years after supposed death) that people wrote about his actual life? Maybe in 2058 someone can write about Obama so we can learn about all the great things he did...sorry, sarcasm.

He lived in the age of Augustus, an age of poets and historians...yet not one written word by Jesus...not one. Seems strange, no?

Don't you guys find it strange that Dionysus, the son of Zeus, had a virgin mother, born during winter solstice Dec 25th, and was killed and resurrected after 3 days? You guys really consider this a coincidence?

 

[Dustin]

Quote from pspr:

Historians have found plenty of evidence that he lived.

As an atheist I'm hoping you can provide some scientific historical evidence, that would be great. From everything I've read there is no written word of Jesus until nearly 50 years after death by Paul who neglected to write anything about the now common knowledge of Jesus. It wasn't' until 20 years later (70 years after supposed death) that people wrote about his actual life? Maybe in 2058 someone can write about Obama so we can learn about all the great things he did...sorry, sarcasm.

He lived in the age of Augustus, an age of poets and historians...yet not one written word by Jesus...not one. Seems strange, no?

Don't you guys find it strange that Dionysus, the son of Zeus, had a virgin mother, born during winter solstice Dec 25th, and was killed and resurrected after 3 days? You guys really consider this a coincidence?

 

[PHOENIX TRADING]

Quote from stu:

Yeah I can.

:eek:

 

[PHOENIX TRADING]

Quote from Dustin:



Don't you guys find it strange that Dionysus, the son of Zeus, had a virgin mother, born during winter solstice Dec 25th, and was killed and resurrected after 3 days? You guys really consider this a coincidence?

 

[bigarrow]

Quote from MarketMasher:

It's ok.

Don't be upset if someone challenges your faith.

Rather, look at it as an opportunity to examine it more closely with a critical eye...

Why do you put the big smiley faces on all of your posts?

 

[MarketMasher]

Quote from bigarrow:

Why do you put the big smiley faces on all of your posts?

Hoping someone will notice them and ask:

"Why do you put the big smiley faces on all of your posts? "