Here are the world currencies flow into BTC in realtime.
http://fiatleak.com/
http://fiatleak.com/
You guys are missing the forest for the tree.
4B people in Asia, cultural money laundering and tax evasion issues, governments/countries/cultures with an authoritarian bent, fast money social culture, breakneck tech growth.
You guys are arguing about a tick in ES when the entire mkt is soaring higher. Forest for the tree.
That's -2% movement; c'mon now
Max, bro, listen... It is very difficult to have a discussion with you because you have an idea that everyone who invested in bitcoin are children blinded by a mass delusion of Tulip Mania.
The Winklevoss twins are holding about $200 Million worth of bitcoins. There are others who hold more than that (not me). Just for a minute, consider that you are not smarter than all of the people with stake in the game? If you think you are, you need to put your money where your mouth is and open multiple accounts, Kraken, Poloniex, etc. and mortgage everything you have and short bitcoin over $2300 per bitcoin. Short half now, Keep adding until you've made million$ per your "guaranteed crash" a few posts back. It's not hard.
How about a relative value argument? All the reasons why bitcoin is useless can be applied to gold. But, with bitcoin, I can send money across the globe.... no customs no stamp no wirefees no government controls. And with bitcoin, a cancer patient can buy drugs without meeting anyone in a shady area. So they should at least be equal in market cap -- bitcoin and gold.
And how much do those miners have/what kind of revenue do those miners provide, where it is going to back a currency when there is a crisis of confidence? What tangible assets are these people putting down? Do you not understand the problem?
What happens if someone just says "Sorry bro your bit coins are mine" Amzn has assetsd to go after if they screw you, with bitcoin There is no one to sue, no country, nothing, the first time one of these cryptocurrencies gets scammed peoplewill realize that. Do you think anyone with serious money would ever buy something like that, where they dont have legal recourse if you screw them?