Should people with high quality DNA become sperm donors instead of starting families?

Quote from Ricter:

I am not certain that high IQ is a long-term benefit for Man. I suspect that the animals, with their "stupid", balanced if harsh adaptation to Nature, will plod along and ultimately outlast us. Remember, it takes a vast number of millenia to decide these things. There is something about the symbolic nature of Man, with its resulting feedback anxiety, that could well cause us to end ourselves. With the "death of God" and the steady deconstruction of all other systems, the existential abyss we're peering into, and the vast increase in our numbers, I see the possibility for a ubiquitious madness.
Well just maybe that's the thing when you lock in deep seated preconceptions of how things must be. Since when did constructive criticism become a bad thing? Deconstruction leading to "the death of God" could be one positive outcome. Those "stupid" animals don't worship deities and it seems they are going to survive your existential abyss. Deconstruction could well be the one thing a human consciousness needs to use more often to avoid a dodgy ending from all that feedback anxiety.
 
Quote from stu:

Well just maybe that's the thing when you lock in deep seated preconceptions of how things must be. Since when did constructive criticism become a bad thing? Deconstruction leading to "the death of God" could be one positive outcome. Those "stupid" animals don't worship deities and it seems they are going to survive your existential abyss. Deconstruction could well be the one thing a human consciousness needs to use more often to avoid a dodgy ending from all that feedback anxiety.

You do not understand existentialism.
 
Quote from Ricter:

You do not understand existentialism.
You imagine the existentialism which is people being free to be responsible for what they make of themselves is looking into an abyss?
Maybe you could use some deconstruction right there to appreciate what it is you are actually suggesting.
 
Quote from Ghost of Cutten:

If I have a kid and/or get married, I take a serious risk of getting hosed for large sums of money, by the decisions of a woman (or women) whose behaviour I cannot (legally) control.

Have you considered marrying a woman who is richer than you? Of course, why would she marry you??? In the case of divorce, you could be ripping off of her....

But please yes, sow your Colbert's Formula 401 quality semen around, so humanity will be left a better place once you leave us....
 
Quote from stu:

You imagine the existentialism which is people being free to be responsible for what they make of themselves is looking into an abyss?

I didn't mean to say you couldn't define it.
 
Quote from Ghost of Cutten:

If I have a kid and/or get married, I take a serious risk of getting hosed for large sums of money, by the decisions of a woman (or women) whose behaviour I cannot (legally) control. Child support, divorce settlements, and alimony in many western countries are financially punitive and don't favour relatively well-off married men or fathers.

If I respond by not marrying or reproducing, my DNA will die out. The human race will be denied the benefit of the contribution made by my offspring.

Isn't the rational response then to become a sperm donor? Either officially, via donations to sperm banks throughout the world. Or unofficially, by seducing and impregnating various women out of wedlock, in countries without strong child support enforcement & laws.

This way, the world benefits from having more people, of good genetic stock (assuming I pick healthy, attractive, and average or better IQ women with decent moral values), I get to satisfy my genetic imperative to reproduce, and I don't have to pay out the ass to finance some gold-digger's shopping sprees. Also, I don't have to deal with bringing up dozens of whining kids. What's not to like?

Westerners don't reproduce enough. This seems like the perfect way to solve that problem. It does an end run around the absurd divorce and child support laws that make reproduction and familiy-building a negative-sum game for anyone of means.

Do you not think that there are values that can be passed on through the act of raising your theoretical child?

Are there no important cerebral and moral attributes that can only be imparted through the process of parenting?

Is your 'superior' DNA enough to allow a productive, purposeful and happy life to your offspring?
 
Quote from OPTIONAL777:

Still dreaming of a master race with visions of a modern day Johnny Appleseed...

No, dreams of this kind are not something I've had, in fact I have always been very much against having any kids. Besides, I will be dead in a few decades anyway, at which point I will obviously no longer care about the future. However, there may be a moral duty to humanity to do my bit to further the survival and progress of the species.

After all, if any of my ancestors had had a similar lack of desire to reproduce, I would not be alive. Ditto for every human alive today. Seems a bit irrational to act in a way that would have prevented you from ever existing, if your predecessors had adopted the same behaviour.
 
Quote from Free Thinker:

yes i beg of you. please make the sacrifice so the world does not lose out on your high quality sperm. the world could be set back generations if if we lost the contribution of people like you. its your duty.

If the entire world act like I have up until the present, humanity will become extinct by the end of the 21st century. Even on an individual level, you yourself are only alive because hundreds of ancestors aggressively sought out females to copulate with.
 
Quote from trendlover:

Quote from Ghost of Cutten:

This way, the world benefits from having more people, of good genetic stock (assuming I pick healthy, attractive, and average or better IQ women with decent moral values),
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So funny Cutten! :D But if you donate to the bank you can not know who take your sperm.

True - but most people going to sperm banks can't conceive normally with their partners. My act will bring happiness two one or two people, and create new individuals. That should be a net benefit. And unless the mother is a total basket case, the resulting child should be at least reasonably functioning as a human being.
 
Quote from pspr:

Cutten, unless your DNA has a mutation that benefits mankind I wouldn't worry about it. You're DNA won't be missed.

Not true. If I impregnated many women of average intelligence or lower, their offspring would grow up to become significantly more intelligent than them. That is a net benefit. If my DNA wouldn't benefit humanity, females would not want to breed with me, whereas I have had a few who expressed an interest in doing so.

Also, donating sperm is hardly difficult, and there is some pleasure involved in the process.
 
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