should i trade the trend or noise...there is more of noise

[padutrader]

OMG that is too funny. An old friend of mine HATES that song, and I ribbed him about it a few months ago...

thank you and it was in 1971 that i heard this song.

i was in HONG KONG doing my schooling there my dad was posted and working there....

BTW i am neutral about the song

 

[Overnight]

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BTW i am neutral about the song

The song really is hateful.

 

[padutrader]

want to try my suggestion? I am telling ya... handsome dude like you... rich widow is the fast track to the promise landed lol.... trading and hard work is so over-rated.

THANK YOU

YOU HAVE MADE MY WEEK END

now i am ready to take on BIG and NASTY Mr. market

 

[padutrader]

The song really is hateful.

yeah really silly

 

[padutrader]

undeniable momentum

what goes up fast may come down fast....but we do not know how far a trend will go....but noise is far more predictable....it will at most make a high before it reverse

 

[MarkBrown]

what goes up fast may come down fast....but we do not know how far a trend will go....but noise is far more predictable....it will at most make a high before it reverse

the answer to chop and trend can be found within math that can be bound to 100% of the price action. then knowing without a doubt every movement of the price action you apply more math to project a probability nearby into the future to place trades in front of the market.

math / probabilities / order placement / money management and lastly psychology are what is required to successfully trade for decades.

btw there are many harder ways to make a living than trading it's just that it seems the hardest when you have not yet mastered it like anything else discipline to apply knowledge is required.

Mathematically Predicting the Future?

 

[They]

Noise/Chop is easy, Trend/Momo is easy, its the transition that f@cks every one.

 

[ironchef]

i show my account you dont...and and it is easy to write crap in a forum rather than trade see my statement 23 trades and 100 % win with 200 % profit

and by the way you dont bother finding a rich widow because you need balls for thatView attachment 202849

Excuse my ignorance, how can I tell if this is a real statement?

And who is Mr. Rao?

 

[MarkBrown]

I belive ET should have a new rule, everyone must show their account statement BEFORE giving trading advice.

In other words, if you not a profitable trader, just shut up on the advice stuff or recommendations.

my take on statements prove me wrong.

there are many people here who are managers of funds which are pools of money which sometimes can be found within professional reporting services. these results are audited by independent companies and provided certified results.

an individual can just fling up the one monthly statement that you made money. individuals who post statements here should provide all their statements from day one and have those results independently audited and if not found to be profitable then restricted to being on this forum.

that would leave only me and a few other people i know left to talk on this forum it would be pretty lonely. not that it isn't already lonely wading through all the ignorance here to have an adult conversation about trading.

 

[SimpleMeLike]

my take on statements prove me wrong.

there are many people here who are managers of funds which are pools of money which sometimes can be found within professional reporting services. these results are audited by independent companies and provided certified results.

an individual can just fling up the one monthly statement that you made money. individuals who post statements here should provide all their statements from day one and have those results independently audited and if not found to be profitable then restricted to being on this forum.

that would leave only me and a few other people i know left to talk on this forum it would be pretty lonely. not that it isn't already lonely wading through all the ignorance here to have an adult conversation about trading.

MarkBrown,

Sounds good to me. Let's do it. Because in all honesty, that is what makes trading hard. You have guys like me, who have never had a winning year, and still in trenches learning and practice, and I have the ability to give someone advice on trading. But I don't, because I am smart enough and ethical enough to say "hey how you give some advice and you don't even make money trading" My only advice for a trader is prove in simulation first.

And this how people lose money. It like the pony and clown show. The tail wagging the dog. Noone post charts, noone post account statments, just random noise. Better to watch chart noise. Or go watch a price action trading course or something. I can not wait untiil I am profitable, I will be blasting my account statement on ever single post when I give advice.