Should Everyone Be Allowed To Vote?

Quote from bigarrow:

I pay taxes but my goal every year is to get my tax bill as low as possible and if I could legally get it to zero or even have them send me a check I would. So by others opinions the more successful I am at keeping my money the less rights I have to vote, makes no sense. Another right wing plan shot down.

If you're not paying at least $1 in federal taxes, own at least 1 share of stock or have some equity in property, do you think you should be participating in the decision process that effects owners and producers in this country, in a greater manner than yourself?
 
Quote from oktiri:

1--Your grasp of biology seems to be superficial, at best. Without parasites in your gut, you'd be unable to digest almost anything. that's why it's called "symbiosis." you need them to live, and they too. Neither can "exist" without the other.

Are you equating a symbiotic relationship (remorra fish/shark) to gimme recipients? Sorry, guy, I'm thinking more apropriately of the TICK.
 
Quote from RichardRimes:

" the RIGHT of citizens to vote shall not be denied......." direct quote from the 15th ammendment...granted the ammendments are not a part of the ORIGINAL constitution however are now considered by the Supreme Court of the US to be part of the constitutional RIGHTS of its citizens.

I guess you'd be ok with reading:

. . . the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
right? :D

Here's the entire amendment:
Amendment XV
Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

It says that states can't pick one of the listed reasons to deny the right to vote. They can pick other reasons.

According to that, States can still say something like short people can't vote, or redheads are not allowed in polling places.

The Constitution is very clear and it says that state legislatures are responsible for figuring out how to pick electors to pick the US President. Congress Critters have to be elected by the people, but states can say "FYA! People can't vote for president."
 
Quote from Mecro:

You don't have a clue either if think you're actually think your vote matters when it's constricted to two pre-selected candidates that are really part of a ONE party system.

Unfortunately, the Libertarian Party has been vitually invisible this year.
 
Quote from oktiri:

2--Next time you go to a parent's meeting at your children's school. Stand up and ask the "stupid" teachers how is it that they fail to look out after their own economic interests by pursuing an ingrate underpaying career. If people who abuse the system are parasites, how do you call people who pay more than their fair share like teachers & soldiers who are paid a misery (value not always monetary) ?

Most teachers own a piece of America through pensions, annuities or real estate, and they definitely pay federal taxes. Your point?
 
Quote from AlpineTrout:

...just trying to come up with ideas to keep parasites from running the country into the crapper.

We're already in the crapper. Obama's just going to flush it.
 
It makes a huge amount of sense to have some type of IQ requirement in order to vote. It's common sense to know this because you only need simple example to explain it.

It really depends on what type of people make up a country. There are basically two types of people. There are people that are achievers and there are people that are spoon feeders.

If the country is made up of spoon feeders than that is what the country will turn into until they are taken advantage of achieving countries. My huge amazement in this is that average spoon feeding Americans totally take their freedom for granted. Every voter should read the prince before they ever vote. The world is always for the taking.
 
Quote from NeoRio1:

It makes a huge amount of sense to have some type of IQ requirement in order to vote. It's common sense to know this because you only need simple example to explain it.

It really depends on what type of people make up a country. There are basically two types of people. There are people that are achievers and there are people that are spoon feeders.

If the country is made up of spoon feeders than that is what the country will turn into until they are taken advantage of achieving countries. My huge amazement in this is that average spoon feeding Americans totally take their freedom for granted. Every voter should read the prince before they ever vote. The world is always for the taking.

IQ requirements would disqualify a large percentage of conservatives. Liberals tend to be more highly educated and more likely to graduate from college and from graduate school.

The very question as posed on this thread smacks of arrogance. Shame on anyone who wants to deprive a fellow law-abiding citizen the right to vote.
 
Quote from TGregg:

I guess you'd be ok with reading:

right? :D

Here's the entire amendment:


It says that states can't pick one of the listed reasons to deny the right to vote. They can pick other reasons.

According to that, States can still say something like short people can't vote, or redheads are not allowed in polling places.

The Constitution is very clear and it says that state legislatures are responsible for figuring out how to pick electors to pick the US President. Congress Critters have to be elected by the people, but states can say "FYA! People can't vote for president."

Are you serious? You can't be.

I cannot imagine state legislators being that stupid as to deprive the very citizens who voted them in their right to vote.

Not in this country, and probably not in this century.

How'd you get to be a moderator, anyway?
 
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