Should Confederate War Memorials/Statues Be Abolished?

[TreeFrogTrader]

Its a good thing for Isis Forrest is no longer with us.

He and Jeb Stuart could clear out that Autonomous Zone shit in Seattle mighty quickly too.

I don't think they were into "listening tours."



I guess JEB was promoted to general too, now that I think of it. He had been a colonel under Stonewall Jackson. He resigned from the Union Army to join the Confederate Army. That must have been an interesting resignation letter, thanking everyone but saying that you have received a better job offer. Of course, Robert E. had been offered command of the Union Army by Lincoln. Crazy times. Arlington Cemetary is actually made up of the land that was owned by Lee's family and the yanks confiscated it when he went with the south, as I recall.

 

[Ricter]

The South will rise again!

(And get beaten down again.)

 

[Tony Stark]

The Taliban likes to destroy statues and historic sights.

Germans scrubbed Nazism from Germany and Russia had De-Stalinization but the racist in The US want to keep The Confederacy around

 

[vanzandt]

Bezos better nix this before he's tagged a racist and the powers that be launch an AMZN boycott.

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‘Gone With the Wind’ Hits No. 1 on Amazon Best-Sellers Chart After HBO Max Drops Movie


“Gone With the Wind” zipped to the top of Amazon’s best-sellers sales chart for TV and movies, a day after WarnerMedia’s HBO Max pulled the movie for “racist depictions.”

Amazon bases its rankings on sales data. The site currently offers the 70th anniversary two-disc DVD edition of “Gone With the Wind” starting at $29.55, while Amazon Video offers the movie as a digital HD rental at $3.99 and for purchase at $9.99.

Meanwhile, on Apple’s iTunes movie chart for the U.S., “Gone With the Wind” on Wednesday was in the No. 5 spot (after “The Hunt,” “Birds of Prey,” “Bad Boys for Life,” and “The Invisible Man”).

Oscar-winning film “Gone With the Wind” was removed Tuesday from the HBO Max streaming service temporarily. WarnerMedia said it plans to return to the movie to the library, along with a discussion about the historical context for the 1939 movie and a “denouncement” of the movie’s racist stereotypes.

“’Gone With The Wind’ is a product of its time and depicts some of the ethnic and racial prejudices that have, unfortunately, been commonplace in American society,” an HBO Max spokesperson told Variety. “These racist depictions were wrong then and are wrong today, and we felt that to keep this title up without an explanation and a denouncement of those depictions would be irresponsible.”



“Gone With the Wind” stars Vivien Leigh, Clark Gable, Hattie McDaniel and Olivia de Havilland. The film, adapted from the 1936 novel by Margaret Mitchell, is described on Amazon.com’s website as “a classic epic of the American South,” set during the Civil War and the Reconstruction era.

The movie, produced by David O. Selznick, won eight competitive Oscars including best picture, best actress for Leigh, best director for Victor Fleming and best supporting actress for McDaniel, who was the first Black person to ever win an Academy Award. The American Film Institute ranks “Gone With the Wind” as the No. 4 best American movie of all time, after “Citizen Kane,” “Casablanca,” and “The Godfather.”

 

[El OchoCinco]

Bezos better nix this before he's tagged a racist and the powers that be launch an AMZN boycott.

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‘Gone With the Wind’ Hits No. 1 on Amazon Best-Sellers Chart After HBO Max Drops Movie


“Gone With the Wind” zipped to the top of Amazon’s best-sellers sales chart for TV and movies, a day after WarnerMedia’s HBO Max pulled the movie for “racist depictions.”

Amazon bases its rankings on sales data. The site currently offers the 70th anniversary two-disc DVD edition of “Gone With the Wind” starting at $29.55, while Amazon Video offers the movie as a digital HD rental at $3.99 and for purchase at $9.99.

Meanwhile, on Apple’s iTunes movie chart for the U.S., “Gone With the Wind” on Wednesday was in the No. 5 spot (after “The Hunt,” “Birds of Prey,” “Bad Boys for Life,” and “The Invisible Man”).

Oscar-winning film “Gone With the Wind” was removed Tuesday from the HBO Max streaming service temporarily. WarnerMedia said it plans to return to the movie to the library, along with a discussion about the historical context for the 1939 movie and a “denouncement” of the movie’s racist stereotypes.

“’Gone With The Wind’ is a product of its time and depicts some of the ethnic and racial prejudices that have, unfortunately, been commonplace in American society,” an HBO Max spokesperson told Variety. “These racist depictions were wrong then and are wrong today, and we felt that to keep this title up without an explanation and a denouncement of those depictions would be irresponsible.”



“Gone With the Wind” stars Vivien Leigh, Clark Gable, Hattie McDaniel and Olivia de Havilland. The film, adapted from the 1936 novel by Margaret Mitchell, is described on Amazon.com’s website as “a classic epic of the American South,” set during the Civil War and the Reconstruction era.

The movie, produced by David O. Selznick, won eight competitive Oscars including best picture, best actress for Leigh, best director for Victor Fleming and best supporting actress for McDaniel, who was the first Black person to ever win an Academy Award. The American Film Institute ranks “Gone With the Wind” as the No. 4 best American movie of all time, after “Citizen Kane,” “Casablanca,” and “The Godfather.”

Gone With the Wind is a movie, not a propaganda piece. Let us not forget that Haddie was the first Black winner of an Oscar. The movie is a period piece and the scenes are reflective of that. It was not meant to glorify slavery although I have not seen it in 20 or 30 years so maybe I misremember it.

I am sure the movie can still be shown in context of the time period.

 

[Tony Stark]

 

[Wallet]

When do we start cleansing our country of all historical references to Presidents and military commanders that opposed and oppressed the Native American nations?

What about the railroads that where built on the deaths of forced Asian immigrants?

Forced Conscription of Irish immigrants?

Racism has existed forever and is not contained to just one race. It’s history folks. Learn from it, erasing it accomplishes nothing.

 

[vanzandt]

When do we start cleansing our country of all historical references to Presidents and military commanders that opposed and oppressed the Native American nations?

What about the railroads that where built on the deaths of forced Asian immigrants?

Forced Inscription into the Union Army of Irish immigrants?

Racism has existed forever and is not contained to just one race. It’s history folks. Learn from it, erasing it accomplishes nothing.

This is a pretty funny story.

One white dude I know smokes American Spirits, they're a pretty popular cig among the Millennial's that smoke as they claim to be "all natural". (right ) Pricey.

Anyway I saw the pack and I said... "American Spirit(!)... they have the nerve to put an Indian on the pack?! Do you know how bad we fucked the Indians!?"

The other guy there, he's a black rapper... funny as f.... he goes... "Yeah VZ... and look, they made him a 'nigga' too!"

You had to be there. But it was hilarious.

 

[Tony Stark]

 

[El OchoCinco]

To be honest as a fan of college hoops and a huge fan of that UNLV team of Larry Johnson, Stacey Augmon and Greg Anthony, I never thought their mascot name was associated with Confederacy because they were in Nevada.. just thought they were Running Rebels because Rebels is like Cavaliers or Bucanneers...just another type of fighter.