Should Confederate War Memorials/Statues Be Abolished?

No, me and your gran pappy are celebrating the victory of the NORTH!
At this point you are the knight of Monty Python fame with all your limbs severed and spewing blood but still thinking you are in the fight.

The ownage is total. We all know now you've little control of your temper and have complete disregard for anything truthful or honorable. A nasty little angry man.
 
I just have to last until 8PM when it is lights out at the home so you can tell more stories about your pappy..

LMAO...calling out your own ownage ....

Sad when the elders start to show signs of onset dementia. I saw it when my grandfather who fought in the War of 1812 had the same thing.
 
I just have to last until 8PM when it is lights out at the home so you can tell more stories about your pappy..

LMAO...calling out your own ownage ....

Sad when the elders start to show signs of onset dementia. I saw it when my grandfather who fought in the War of 1812 had the same thing.
You see, ET in these circumstances is very much like Sumo. You try to put the other guy over the line without crossing it yourself only instead of being about mass its about clear honest thoughtful expression. In this regard I am Akebono to your Don Knotts.

You've lied here in this thread. You have misrepresented others. You have lost your cool.

Have you no dignity man? Or is dignity non-existent in the shit hole you come from?
 
You guys are unable or unwilling to discuss well documented issues without twisting people's words or outright lying. I see that you are frustrated, arguing with someone 40 IQ points above you can be frustrating. But FFS surely you realize that lying and misrepresenting the posts of others just lines you up for hostility. Possibly that is what you want?

Fine. What happens is you take little pot shots from cover and then I turn the guns onto your position and pour fire on it and you look stupid as a result. Works for me.

O, excuse me Mr. Genius-man. I had no idea you were an intellectual giant. I do find it odd that an intellect as grand as yours cannot differentiate between democrats from 2019 and democrats from 1862.

Perhaps you can use that mighty intellect of your to explain to explain to us dim whits the Republican Party regional representation in the north before and after the civil rights act of 1964.

Did the entire north move south or perhaps southern conservatives moved north?

Because if I’m to believe you that would mean northerners were pro slavery and pro segregation. But you’re the one with the big brain and I’m sure you can enlighten the forum on this matter, as simple as it must be for a man of your stature.
 
O, excuse me Mr. Genius-man. I had no idea you were an intellectual giant. I do find it odd that an intellect as grand as yours cannot differentiate between democrats from 2019 and democrats from 1862.

Perhaps you can use that mighty intellect of your to explain to explain to us dim whits the Republican Party regional representation in the north before and after the civil rights act of 1964.

Did the entire north move south or perhaps southern conservatives moved north?

Because if I’m to believe you that would mean northerners were pro slavery and pro segregation. But you’re the one with the big brain and I’m sure you can enlighten the forum on this matter, as simple as it must be for a man of your stature.
I've gotten the idea that you feed on hostile interaction and don't really intend to carry on a legitimate discussion.

I mean, you've consistently tried to twist and misrepresent my posts leaving me thinking you prefer to fight. I can do that but as AAA has pointed out this is all so tribal now that maybe its pointless. You have no intention of debating you just want to spew off a bit of that hatred you harbor.

I sort of get that, the whole leftist narrative is collapsing and you need to say some stuff. But don't pretend you are carrying on an intelligent conversation. Most here can see through that now, even 85.
 
You have missed the point entirely, which is hardly surprising. No one is defending slavery. It was the equivalent of massive immigration now, a device used by the rich to lower labor costs with no regard for the harm it caused to their fellow citizens or the future ramifications.

Hundreds of thousands of poor southerners, who certainly didn't own slaves, went to war because they wanted freedom from what had become a tyrannical federal government under the radical Lincoln, an extremist elected with narrow support in the urban northeast and upper Midwest. (Sound familiar?)

The fact that 160 odd years later we are still having the same bitter divisions demonstrates the wisdom of a peaceful separation at that time.

Exact opposite of what I said. I said most never owned slaves, nor was slavery beneficial to them. It was bad for them in that it depressed wages, which after all, was the whole point of it. Just like with immigration today.

Like Southerners today though, they didn't like being pushed around or told how revolting they were to their moral superiors in the north.

thankfully we record facts. I suppose technically, half ownership isn't "most":
https://www.history.com/news/5-myths-about-slavery

2. Myth #2: The South seceded from the Union over the issue of states’ rights, not slavery.
This myth, that the Civil War wasn’t fundamentally a conflict over slavery, would have been a surprise to the original founders of the Confederacy. In the official declaration of the causes of their secession in December 1860, South Carolina’s delegates cited “an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery.” According to them, the Northern interference with the return of fugitive slaves was violating their constitutional obligations; they also complained that some states in New England tolerated abolitionist societies and allowed black men to vote.

As James W. Loewen, author of “Lies My Teacher Told Me” and “The Confederate and Neo-Confederate Reader,” wrote in the Washington Post: “In fact, Confederates opposed states’ rights—that is, the right of Northern states not to support slavery.” The idea that the war was somehow not about slavery but about the issue of states’ rights was perpetuated by later generations anxious to redefine their ancestors’ sacrifices as a noble protection of the Southern way of life. At the time, however, Southerners had no problem claiming the protection of slavery as the cause of their break with the Union.

3. Myth #3: Only a small percentage of Southerners owned slaves.
Closely related to Myth #2, the idea that the vast majority of Confederate soldiers were men of modest means rather than large plantation owners is usually used to reinforce the contention that the South wouldn’t have gone to war to protect slavery. The 1860 census shows that in the states that would soon secede from the Union, an average of more than 32 percent of white families owned slaves. Some states had far more slave owners (46 percent in South Carolina, 49 percent in Mississippi) while some had far less (20 percent in Arkansas).
 
I've gotten the idea that you feed on hostile interaction and don't really intend to carry on a legitimate discussion.

I mean, you've consistently tried to twist and misrepresent my posts leaving me thinking you prefer to fight. I can do that but as AAA has pointed out this is all so tribal now that maybe its pointless. You have no intention of debating you just want to spew off a bit of that hatred you harbor.

I sort of get that, the whole leftist narrative is collapsing and you need to say some stuff. But don't pretend you are carrying on an intelligent conversation. Most here can see through that now, even 85.

This isn’t a debate.
 
This isn’t a debate.
Ok.

I'm tired of walking up the dock towards the harbor master's office to get enough wifi to reply and I've got a lovely young woman making me a new Bimini top which needs to finish up before dark.

My antenna will be mounted tomorrow and I'll come back to see if you have anything meaningful to say then.
 
Ok.

I'm tired of walking up the dock towards the harbor master's office to get enough wifi to reply and I've got a lovely young woman making me a new Bimini top which needs to finish up before dark.

My antenna will be mounted tomorrow and I'll come back to see if you have anything meaningful to say then.

Yeah, she is a sweetheart.

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