There is no defence for millions of Americans willing to go to war to retain slavery. It was evil systematic behavior used to enrich some at the great expense of others.
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Should Confederate War Memorials/Statues Be Abolished?
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There is no defence for millions of Americans willing to go to war to retain slavery. It was evil systematic behavior used to enrich some at the great expense of others.
You have missed the point entirely, which is hardly surprising. No one is defending slavery. It was the equivalent of massive immigration now, a device used by the rich to lower labor costs with no regard for the harm it caused to their fellow citizens or the future ramifications.
Hundreds of thousands of poor southerners, who certainly didn't own slaves, went to war because they wanted freedom from what had become a tyrannical federal government under the radical Lincoln, an extremist elected with narrow support in the urban northeast and upper Midwest. (Sound familiar?)
The fact that 160 odd years later we are still having the same bitter divisions demonstrates the wisdom of a peaceful separation at that time.
good for your daddy and granddaddy, great, they served. but, what the fuck that has to do with you? YOU didn't do shit. you are still a piece of shit that his highest achievement is his daddy's accomplishment.
PS. According to your messiah, your grandfather ain't no hero since he got captured.
"He was captured,” Trump said, “Does being captured make you a hero? I don’t know. I’m not sure.”
Fuck you and fuck Robert E. Lee. why don't you publish that list?
That is right...his grand daddy was captured. According to Trump that makes him a royal loser...
the rebellion was led by the rich slave owners who did not want the government meddling in their slave owning.
The poor southerners who fought is the same ol story for thousands of years, the rich get their poor to fight their wars for them while the poor get no benefits. The southern poor woulds have gladly chosen to stay at home then go get slaughtered so their rich statesmen can keep their huge plantations.
Let's look at one historian's view which is quite reasonable:
More than 4 million enslaved human beings lived in the south, and they touched every aspect of the region’s social, political, and economic life. Slaves did not just work on plantations. In cities such as Charleston, they cleaned the streets, toiled as bricklayers, carpenters, blacksmiths, bakers, and laborers. They worked as dockhands and stevedores, grew and sold produce, purchased goods and carted them back to their masters’ homes where they cooked the meals, cleaned, raised the children, and tended to the daily chores. “Charleston looks more like a Negro country than a country settled by white people,” a visitor remarked.
Fear of a slave rebellion was palpable. The establishment of a black republic in Haiti and the insurrections, threatened and real, of Gabriel Prosser, Denmark Vesey, and Nat Turner stoked the fires. John Brown’s raid at Harper’s Ferry sent shock waves through the south. Throughout the decades leading up to 1860, slavery was a burning national issue, and political battles raged over the admission of new states as slave or free. Compromises were struck – the Missouri Compromise, the Compromise of 1850 – but the controversy could not be laid to rest.
The South felt increasingly beleaguered as the North increased its criticism of slavery. Abolitionist societies sprang up, Northern publications demanded the immediate end of slavery, politicians waxed shrill about the immorality of human bondage, and overseas, the British parliament terminated slavery in the British West Indies. A prominent historian accurately noted that “by the late 1850’s most white Southerners viewed themselves as prisoners in their own country, condemned by what they saw as a hysterical abolition movement.”
As Southerners became increasingly isolated, they reacted by becoming more strident in defending slavery. The institution was not just a necessary evil: it was a positive good, a practical and moral necessity. Controlling the slave population was a matter of concern for all Whites, whether they owned slaves or not.
You said I was a slave owner You said I was a confederate.
I pointed out your errors ElBolaDeGrasa. Now you seem flustered.
Its not my first rodeo. When mods or Baron say stop I will stop, you won't and will get banned.
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Uh you got upset when the Southerners were slandered for owning slaves. It offended you.
You weren't even alive when Southerns owned slaves, are you really that thick.
I think school was something you skipped
You weren't even alive when Southerns owned slaves, are you really that thick.
I think school was something you skipped
Well its clear that I am a patriot and you are a greasy turd I squeezed out after some bad Taco Bell.