Should Confederate War Memorials/Statues Be Abolished?

Tony Stark said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...atues-removed-Memphis-sells-public-parks.html

Statues of Confederate President Jefferson Davis and KKK leader Nathan Bedford Forrest are removed from Memphis after city sells parks
  • The Memphis City Council sold two parks to a private entity on Wednesday
  • Two statues in the park portraying Confederate leaders Jefferson Davis and Nathan Bedford Forrest were then removed from the parks
  • The city sold the parks to get around the Tennessee Historical Commission, which had previously denied their request to take down the statues
  • Several U.S. cities have in recent months dismantled monuments to Confederate leaders, which have become focal points for a fraught national debate over race

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Authorities in Memphis, a city steeped in civil rights history, removed two statues of Confederate leaders on Wednesday hours after the downtown parkland where they stood was sold to a private group.

Several U.S. cities have in recent months dismantled monuments to Confederate leaders, which have become focal points for a fraught national debate over race and politics.

The removal of the statutes of Confederate President Jefferson Davis and Nathan Bedford Forrest comes three months before Memphis marks the 50th anniversary of the assassination there of civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr. Confederate General Forrest was a slave trader and a Ku Klux Klan leader.

The City Council voted unanimously Wednesday to sell the two parks and crews began working right away to remove a statue of Forrest. At the second park, a statue of Confederate President Jefferson Davis was later taken down.

Selling the parks to a third party was a way to get around the Tennessee Historical Commission, which had previously denied the city's petition to take the statues down.

The parks were sold to Greenspace Inc. for $1,000 each, The Commercial Appeal reported. Memphis Chief Legal Officer Bruce McMullen said Greenspace can legally remove the statues, which the city was unable to do.

Live video from Health Sciences Park captured cheers as the statue of Forrest was lifted off its marble base and placed on a flatbed truck late Wednesday. Police had cordoned off the area around the statue. The statue of Davis was at Fourth Bluff Park

McMullen said the statues would be stored in an undisclosed location.

Memphis Mayor Jim Strickland tweeted that the work in the parks complies with state law.

Earlier this month, the city filed a petition asking for judicial review of the Tennessee Historical Commission's denial of a request to remove the Forrest statue.

'I commend Mayor Strickland and the City Council for finding a way to legally remove statues from an era that is not representative of Memphis today and have remained an affront to most of the citizens of Memphis,' U.S. Rep. Steve Cohen, a Democrat from Memphis, said in a statement.

Cities have tried to remove Confederate monuments after the racially motivated massacre of nine people at a black church in South Carolina and a violent white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.

Protesters have called for the removal of the Forrest statue, saying it represents racism and bigotry. City leaders have discussed ways to relocate the statue and move his remains, which are buried under the monument.

Forrest was a slave trader, Confederate general and Ku Klux Klan leader who became influential in the city's growth after the Civil War.

Supporters of keeping the statue in place say it represents an important part of history. The Sons of Confederate Veterans in Memphis has said such monuments do not represent white supremacy and it would be a mistake to remove them.

'It is a deliberate attempt to avoid the state law and the city is breaking the law,' Lee Millar with Sons of Confederate Veterans told WREG-TV on Wednesday.
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Nathan Bedford Forrest founded the Klan after the Civil War.
Tennessee has a state park named after him. I'm sure thats gonna change.
He slaughtered an entire black regiment at Fort Pillow that surrendered to him.
There are many scholarly debates on whether or not this was true.
Robert E Lee called him "The Devil himself".
He was a brilliant Calvary general. Ruthless.
His tactics are still studied at West Point.
 
Roy Moore said Americas best days were during slavery and the super majority of Alabama republicans voted for him,The RNC supported him and Trump endorsed him
 
dnc troll trolling.

put the whole quote in context. Moore said America had problems we corrected those problmes and he said one of those problems was slavery.


Tony Stark said:
Roy Moore said Americas best days were during slavery and the super majority of Alabama republicans voted for him,The RNC supported him and Trump endorsed him
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jem said:
dnc troll trolling.

put the whole quote in context. Moore said America had problems we corrected those problmes and he said one of those problems was slavery.
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/10/politics/kfile-roy-moore-aroostook-watchmen/index.html

Roy Moore in 2011: Getting rid of amendments after 10th would 'eliminate many problems'
By Andrew Kaczynski, CNN

Updated 6:21 AM ET, Mon December 11, 2017


(CNN)Alabama Republican Senate nominee Roy Moore appeared on a conspiracy-driven radio show twice in 2011, where he told the hosts in an interview that getting rid of constitutional amendments after the Tenth Amendment would 'eliminate many problems' in the way the US government is structured.





Roy Moore (and other confederate state republicans )doesn't like the 14th Amendment

The host agreed with Moore, before turning his attention to the 14th Amendment, which was passed during the Reconstruction period following the Civil War and guaranteed citizenship and equal rights and protection to former slaves and has been used in landmark Supreme Court cases such as Brown v. Board of Education and Obergefell v. Hodges.

"People also don't understand, and being from the South I bet you get it, the 14th Amendment was only approved at the point of the gun," the host said.

"Yeah, it had very serious problems with its approval by the states," Moore replied. "The danger in the 14th Amendment, which was to restrict, it has been a restriction on the states using the first Ten Amendments by and through the 14th Amendment. To restrict the states from doing something that the federal government was restricted from doing and allowing the federal government to do something which the first Ten Amendments prevented them from doing. If you understand the incorporation doctrine used by the courts and what it meant. You'd understand what I'm talking about."

 
Tony Stark said:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/10/politics/kfile-roy-moore-aroostook-watchmen/index.html

Roy Moore in 2011: Getting rid of amendments after 10th would 'eliminate many problems'
By Andrew Kaczynski, CNN

Updated 6:21 AM ET, Mon December 11, 2017


(CNN)Alabama Republican Senate nominee Roy Moore appeared on a conspiracy-driven radio show twice in 2011, where he told the hosts in an interview that getting rid of constitutional amendments after the Tenth Amendment would 'eliminate many problems' in the way the US government is structured.





Roy Moore (and other confederate state republicans )doesn't like the 14th Amendment

The host agreed with Moore, before turning his attention to the 14th Amendment, which was passed during the Reconstruction period following the Civil War and guaranteed citizenship and equal rights and protection to former slaves and has been used in landmark Supreme Court cases such as Brown v. Board of Education and Obergefell v. Hodges.

"People also don't understand, and being from the South I bet you get it, the 14th Amendment was only approved at the point of the gun," the host said.

"Yeah, it had very serious problems with its approval by the states," Moore replied. "The danger in the 14th Amendment, which was to restrict, it has been a restriction on the states using the first Ten Amendments by and through the 14th Amendment. To restrict the states from doing something that the federal government was restricted from doing and allowing the federal government to do something which the first Ten Amendments prevented them from doing. If you understand the incorporation doctrine used by the courts and what it meant. You'd understand what I'm talking about."
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Ignorant race-baiter
 
jem said:
so were you trolling tony or did your dnc talking points get it wrong?
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Roy Moore stating his true feelings and than trying to clean it up is the norm with him.His feelings on slavery are perfectly clear


http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/10/politics/kfile-roy-moore-aroostook-watchmen/index.html

Roy Moore in 2011: Getting rid of amendments after 10th would 'eliminate many problems'
By Andrew Kaczynski, CNN




http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/27/politics/kfile-roy-moore-secession-day-events/index.html

Pro-Confederate activists held 'Secession Day' event at Roy Moore's foundation two years in a row

(CNN)Pro-Confederate activists twice held events to commemorate Alabama's 1861 secession from the United States at the headquarters of the foundation led at the time by Roy Moore, the new Republican nominee for US Senate.





https://www.salon.com/2017/12/12/never-mind-the-sex-scandals-roy-moore-is-a-son-of-the-confederacy/

Never mind the sex scandals: Roy Moore is a son of the Confederacy
Controversial Alabama U.S. Senate candidate has extensive ties to white nationalists and Christian supremacists
 
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