shorting the jumping cat

Update: Added more puts today, strike 70, $1.25.

So far I'm in the red and it seems that I made a fool out of myself by posting my trades. But I really don't care.
 
Quote from heilbronner:

Update: Added more puts today, strike 70, $1.25.

So far I'm in the red and it seems that I made a fool out of myself by posting my trades. But I really don't care.
Nothing wrong with being wrong.

:)
 
Quote from inandlong:

Nothing wrong with being wrong.

:)

Very true. I commend Heil for posting his trades to begin with. A true trader that puts his $ where his mouth is.
 
The reason why some other stocks in the sector such as CAT PCAR CUM etc. are trending very strongly upwards and making 52 wk highs - *I suspect* - is as a possible target in a consolidation sector play with the likes of Daimler Chrysler (DCX), Volvo et al looking them over.

CAT's money inflows over the past 1.5 mths has been the highest for all the DOW stocks. Volume over this time has also doubled...
Maybe there is something that big money already knows about?

Look to an imminent announcement soon from the likes of Daimler-Chrysler, Volvo etc..

It sure as heck isn't because of "fundamentals" - there is a glut of supply in the industry, LOL.
Technicals also very strong.

Let this thread be a lesson for those who short on triple volume breakouts - as on 7/17.
And in addition compound their trading problems by layering short-dated OTM puts and whatnot as well.

Rather than picking tops I'd prefer to follow da big boyz money...


LOL



Quote from iceman1:



with all due respect I can never understand trying to pick a top in an uptrending stock... as if to say...... I refuse to miss any portion of a perceived imminent decline!

Either one enters on TA or on fundamentals. Based upon TA..... from what I can observe.... CAT is not... yet.... a short regardless if it is selling at 150 times earnings! I have no idea of its' fundamentals b.t.w.

Moreover..................... I can never, EVER understand why someone needs to publicly declare (particularly on ET, as opposed to YHOO!) that they are stubbornly going against a trend by continuing to average a loss.... and with front month derivatives no less!!! :eek:

It's kind of like beating one's chest in the caveman days...

....as if to say... I KNOW MORE than the market!

Do you?

I believe all your 65 puts will end up worthless; but wish you bonne chance.

ICe
:cool:
 
Quote from running_bare:


Let this thread be a lesson for those who short on triple volume breakouts - as on 7/17.
And in addition compound their trading problems by layering short-dated OTM puts and whatnot as well.

Rather than picking tops I'd prefer to follow da big boyz money...

LOL

Geeez... where have I heard that before?!

LOL


ICe
:cool:
 
Quote from heilbronner:

Update: Added more puts today, strike 70, $1.25.

So far I'm in the red and it seems that I made a fool out of myself by posting my trades. But I really don't care.


Well, fwiw, I enjoy reading about your trades. I do find some of them quite baffling, but that makes it more interesting, because I'm hearing from someone who sees the market quite differently to myself.

There's no need to feel a fool; it's not like people here are such good traders that you look stupid next to them. Lol. Not at all.

Can I ask you a serious question, is the way you're handling this trade part of what you'd planned for it, or are you introducing coping tactics as the market moves (or did you plan to do this)?
 
Even a jumping pussyCAT needs some time to relax. Things have been very hot, lately and an idiot like me needs a little downmove, com' on CAT.

What I learned so far: Better spend your time with a Cat who has two legs. :p
 
Quote from heilbronner:

Update: Added more puts today, strike 70, $1.25.

So far I'm in the red and it seems that I made a fool out of myself by posting my trades. But I really don't care.

No one gets them all right, and no one shorts high tick very often.

You certainly haven't made a fool of yourself. Personally, I enjoy your analyses and I always make a practice of pulling up the charts and looking at your picks.
 
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