Short-term trading with Oscar

Quote from Paulds11:

Stealth Trader..

Err isnt it Trading 101 that win/loss ratio is central to the trader, in all of us ? Isnt there room for improvement, in Oscar it could not have been easy making the transition from Floor to electronic trading.. the two are completely different worlds...

"koolaid"...?? wtf r u talking about??? If this is a euphemism for his "tech analysis" then Ill drink all the damned "Koolaid" hes got... anyone who can talk about flipping Head and Shoulder patterns, intra day indexes habits and markets that lead others at various monthly seasonal and weekly cycles, indicator usage, tick chart subjectives "buy &hold" futures trades, mirrors, triple quads, conversions using futures+option island reversals..when and how to use them all in just one day, and do it without contradiction and in clear precise language is a very valuable tome of knowledge in my book...


And yet, with all that "knowledge", he is reduced to sitting in his garage making videos for youtube in hopes of attracting the naive to fund his constant losses.



Quote from Paulds11:

..and last of all.. I didn't offend you so why have you chosen to describe me as "the fool you keep showing yourself to be"?

That is unnecessarily personal and without merit or understanding of who I am or what I have actually said. Very strange reply.

You chose to describe yourself. I merely made reference to it. Not strange in the least. In fact, right on target.



Quote from Paulds11: It amazes me why you maintain such interest then in a thread that clearly displeases you.. I only cam here to celebrate and share something I have found to be valuable and enhancing.. there arnt many of those places to find in the trading world..



Do show where I made any mention of being "displeased. And what you believe is irrelevant to the fact that mikey is a fraud, pure and simple. This isn't the circle-jerk safe haven of oscarville; spew bullshit here, you can expect someone to call you out on it.



Quote from Paulds11: As for comments from others about his character, well haven't we all been tough financial positions? haven't we all called customers this or that according to our mood? haven't we all experienced failure? aren't we all human beings?


What part of his being a charlatan do you not comprehend? The guy can not trade profitably, he admitted it to the newspapers and he has shown that in his live calls. Do you believe he started this newfound enterprise because he has made millions and just wants to give back to society, or he is doing so to pay his bills? You need to get a clue.



Quote from Paulds11: The vitriol and anger is astonishing.. its as if Oscar (who we all know is Michael its no secret) came to your house and took your wood flaws out.. c'mon... hes a Floor Trader who learnt much from J.Murphy at University.. he has knowledge.. why knock it? I can think of worse like the ridiculous J.Hershey or people that have an axe to grind or hidden agenda..


Vitriol and anger???? Since when is telling the truth vitriol and anger? You are really a confused individual.

He is much worse than jackoff hershey. mikey has no qualms hustling others for money, which makes him a con man. jackoff is merely a bullshit artist who barks for the attention.


Quote from Paulds11: The Premium room is astonishing and provides educational content and a community of Novice and experienced traders who interact.. it isn't a quit the way you tell it..

Do show where I made any mention of his fantasy booth at oz. The fact remains, he is a broke con artist.



Quote from Paulds11: I have no axe to grind and I have no affiliation with Oscar... I just like his product and his view and advice whats wrong with that?


There is a message board over at oscarville. One where you can fondle your hero with no negative feedback or be told cold honest truth. Nothing but pure fantasy with like-minds minions. Therefore, do you post here with your oscar nonsense simply due to your obvious need for emotional abuse?



Quote from Paulds11: this isn't a rhetorical question.



Why do you pin such high hopes of your success on a broke con artist selling snake oil? That isn't a rhetorical question.





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Quote from Stealth Trader:

Thanks!!!


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ST, I'm serious, we need to get together at some point and I'll buy you a nice meal. It's the least I can do for you saving me all that typing. "Yeah, what he said!" is all I need...

You know, I can take Oscar, but all these stupid shills/carbon blobs/hangers on are really something. I just cannot understand it. You are either a trader or not, is that so hard to understand? Is you PnL positive, or not?? Do you even have a PnL???

These idiots are so dense, yet so persistent. Oscar must not be making enough to keep them off the street....
 
Quote from Stealth Trader:

----------"And yet, with all that "knowledge", he is reduced to sitting in his garage making videos for youtube in hopes of attracting the naive to fund his constant losses. "---------

He wont be the first or the last trader to work from home, Im not sure Id care if he were bankrupt, many great traders still have ups and downs..so what is your point?

-------------"You chose to describe yourself. I merely made reference to it. Not strange in the least. In fact, right on target."-----

I was hoping for a more balanced and cordial repost with less emotion..?..


------------"Do show where I made any mention of being "displeased. And what you believe is irrelevant to the fact that mikey is a fraud, pure and simple. This isn't the circle-jerk safe haven of oscarville; spew bullshit here, you can expect someone to call you out on it."---

So then...the mask now slippeth", the last time I checked, anyone who offered a legal service to someone prepared to pay for it had a right to receive the money, I get something in return, and it isnt a simple market call either.. please read previous posts for a more indepth look at the same.



----------"What part of his being a charlatan do you not comprehend? The guy can not trade profitably, he admitted it to the newspapers and he has shown that in his live calls. Do you believe he started this newfound enterprise because he has made millions and just wants to give back to society, or he is doing so to pay his bills? You need to get a clue."

Well Sir... Im am actually trying to spray you with clues in order to elevate your argument but it is stuck on the ground floor. Look..Floor Traders rely on different skill sets to electronic traders.. of course he found/finds it difficult to make the transition, hes open about it that doesnt stop him from being a passionate involved and giving human being trying to create value through a business.. by offering trading Assistance in a proeffession he obviously loves so what is your point?, Oscar is great at technical analysis regardless of why he chose to start this business..get it?... your point is irrelevant to the argument because many already find the service indispensable and not for the basic reasons you are clearly trying to steer the argument towards comprendei senior? Even if hes broke does that make him a failure in the art of teaching technical Analysis.. does that mean the Premium room is useless? Theres no such things as failure..(psycology 101) unless you give up and he doesnt strike me as that kinda guy... infact the opposite.. I admire him for that, you make it sound like he has absolutely nothing to offer, despite obviously looking for a new house, supporting a family and possibly living a standard of life mooted as "broke" but relatively still well off by even middle executive standards...or do you live in a Castle made of Crystal and know the bosses of various excahanges on first name basis?.. this is both short sighted and under assuming of those who participate in the room....as if somehow we are all automatons who cannot think and decipher information for ourselves.. we all choose to varying degrees what we want and need.. we all contribute we ALL add value through participation also. You are missing this essential issue..


-----"Vitriol and anger???? Since when is telling the truth vitriol and anger? You are really a confused individual."..----

hmm not worth any reply that one...


------------"He is much worse than jackoff hershey. mikey has no qualms hustling others for money, which makes him a con man. jackoff is merely a bullshit artist who barks for the attention."-----

OK this is becoming laughable, as a trader I could describe you as husling others for money but that doesn't make you a con man does it?




----"Do show where I made any mention of his fantasy booth at oz. The fact remains, he is a broke con artist."---

sure.. and I am George Bush... we all entered a trade today nearly 50 people and we argued why we should take the trade and had to justify it..many did.. take the trade.. we subsequently got out arguing WHY we should discussing the technicals..I believe most made a huge pot from that one trade of the day.. I made just shy of $900 and you think Oscar is a conman who got lucky on this trade?.. You are deluded my friend and not accepting of reason, you see failure when you need to move beyond your obvious prejudice and skepticism.. admittedly that is a hard thing to do..to change the mindset.. but its doable..keep an open mind thats all...


-------"There is a message board over at oscarville. One where you can fondle your hero with no negative feedback or be told cold honest truth. Nothing but pure fantasy with like-minds minions. Therefore, do you post here with your oscar nonsense simply due to your obvious need for emotional abuse?"-----

hmm.. minions you call them / us without regard for who and why, you remain limited by the perspective of a narrow mind, not easily able to conceive reason without the need to challenge unnecessarily, instead you spew words like .. Im not adverse to critique or afraid of it, its just so much is said here that isnt actually factually correct or the wrong emphasis is placed on things


------Why do you pin such high hopes of your success on a broke con artist selling snake oil? That isn't a rhetorical question.----

The question is flawed because your perspective is too narrow, and the central argument actually far removed from this basic presupposition. What you should ask is thus: What additional value is it that I gain with Oscars Premium room to such an extent that I am prepared to pay for it, despite knowledge of the plethora of fools and charlatans that exist in and around this market place?

If you asked THAT question you will begin to see for yourself why I am different from you in appreciation for the obvious benefits afforded by .. THE PREMIUM ROOM.

just my "war & Peace" on the issues

Paul

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Quote from Stealth Traitor:

Hi Gov,

It's a date. I can't wait to lick your balls. All these losers who defend Oscar are probably trading (and losing money), while you and I post all day on this thread. Boy, are they a bunch of losers!!!:p :D :)

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Oh, it's trader69, or is it oblowmewan??

Here, let me help promote your website:

On second thought, nah. Fuck off, loser.
 
Quote from Paulds11:



I find it amazing how large a part ignorance plays in you koolaid drinkers being satisfied with yourselves. Your idiotic response is akin to someone going through life believing in fairy tales. Believing in a lie doesn't make it true, and will make it that much tougher when the truth finally comes crashing down on you. I'm sorry to be the bearer of your bad news, but santa claus and the easter bunny simply don't exist.

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Quote from Stealth Trader:

santa claus and the easter bunny simply don't exist.

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Absolutely not TRUE. The koolaide drinkers are Oscar's Santa Claus. It's Christmas every day when you have blind followers willing to pay you money.:)
 
Quote from gov:

ST, I'm serious, we need to get together at some point and I'll buy you a nice meal. It's the least I can do for you saving me all that typing. "Yeah, what he said!" is all I need...

You know, I can take Oscar, but all these stupid shills/carbon blobs/hangers on are really something. I just cannot understand it. You are either a trader or not, is that so hard to understand? Is you PnL positive, or not?? Do you even have a PnL???

These idiots are so dense, yet so persistent. Oscar must not be making enough to keep them off the street....




Yep, may as well take flight lessons from a pilot who has logged the most crashes because, hey....he wears a cool jacket and is soooooooooooo charasmatic. And he has been reading about flying for 25 years, he knows all the rules! Never mind he can't fly the plane worth a $hit.

Forrest Gump said it best; stupid is as stupid does.


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Quote from HolyGrail:

Absolutely not TRUE. The koolaide drinkers are Oscar's Santa Claus. It's Christmas every day when you have blind followers willing to pay you money.:)


LOL! Isn't that the truth! mikey isn't stupid, he's conniving. A few months ago he was begging for money and now it seems he is boasting of buying a new house. And the lemmings providing him the means to do so interpret that as his being successful from trading. They have the IQ of a tree stump.

As the saying goes, a fool and their money are soon parted. But to come here on ET and cheerlead for the poser who is fleecing them, well....that's "priceless."


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