Have recovery times not decreased in other countries. How much of this "recovery" can be attributed to a drive for hospitals to send people home?
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Have recovery times not decreased in other countries. How much of this "recovery" can be attributed to a drive for hospitals to send people home?
It has nothing to do with sending people. It has to do with the actual time it takes; and aside from that, it deals with injuries that resulting permanent damage before that now are completely remediable. Your presupposes the fact that all procedures are in-patient procedures. You need not convalesce in hospital for everything. I imagine you already know plenty of procedures allow you to convalesce comfortably at home. It has nothing to do with hospital stays.
Not to mention that the CDC independently verifies things like SSIs. SSIs have drastically decreased. Technology has decreased convalescent times because surgeries are less invasive. If a surgery can be done laparoscopically, it drastically reduces healing. It is easier for the body to heal a few holes in your skin and fascia than making a huge scar.
I guess I'm trying to figure out the metrics of the assertion. I'll grant you that anecdotally, yes, it's observable that we have reduced recoveries, and yes in great part due to tech. Question remains, have other countries w/o the American healthcare premiums not made technological advances w/o the added cost (by government ran system)? One can argue that capitalism will always drive innovation, though I may counter that innovation can be government driven as is done w/defense spending.
We may have to agree to disagree. We just got through saying how you can't get something for free. It is also true that you get what you pay for. If you think non-American healthcare is great then fine, use it. The only other country/countries I would consider using for some things would be Sweden and Germany.
I have Irish and British friends (resident in those countries) who tell me how cheap everything is for healthcare. The caveat, admitted by them is, that they have used the healthcare system in the US, and while they prefer how they are treated in the US, they hate the cost of it. A dental in Ireland, according to my friend is EUR 30, but they only 15-30 mins. He thinks the service is shit. His father recently fainted and went to the "A&E" as it called, but he had to wait 24 hours in a bed before a doctor saw to him. This was before corona.
While you may be arguing that the US price gauges—which may be true—it would be a cum hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy to assume that's the only justification. The quality is just better. All you have to do is look at where the innovations are coming from.
They are and have coming predominantly from Sweden, Germany and the US. The pacemaker, ultrasound, etc. were invented by the Swedes. Germany pretty much invented everything to do with time and radiowaves. I may be exaggerating just a little about the Germans. Point being, The main medical advances coming from those countries. Sweden does in fact spent and inordinate amount of money on healthcare. In fact, because the US spends so much on the military industrial complex that Sweden does not, it allows Sweden to spend even more on things like healthcare. Sweden is also the only free-standing quasi-socialist economy. I say quasi-socialist because their economy is second in complexity only to the US, and in some aspects, have more capitalistic (what the idiot calls pro-business) tendencies than the US.
In short, my answer is no except for those countries.
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Some facts...If you will accept them. How many people with compromised systems (AIDS, smokers, heart issues, hepatitis, cancer, drugs/alcoholism, diabetes, obesity) will die from this virus...Many. But these are also the people who probably would not live into their 80's. Just saying...Almost like an insurance actuary. We also have 40,000,000 people in this country who are not supposed to be here (whatever you wish to call them). They and their children may have underlying conditions also. This only adds problems to the hospital situation. The average life expectance in 1960 (both men and women) 69.77...2019 it's 78.87. So yes, many people in rest homes will die from this virus. But every year most people in rest homes die from the flu...Or heart issues (example obesity).
I am not saying this virus isn't bad...It is. But the sky is not falling. The states will find old hospitals/facilities to use. Cremations and simple burials will happen (just like the Spanish Flu). We should have a flu shot (to reduce the symptoms) within a year (as per Johnson and Johnson's head doctor). People will spend...Not at Macy's, but for basics. People who have a job and wish to buy a home...The interest rates have NEVER been this good. Yeah, many people are out of work...But there are jobs out there, grocery stores, trucking, etc. Maybe the market is priced where it should be for now and in the near (6 months) future...
If you haven't figured it out...I'm a pragmatist.
I am not saying this virus isn't bad...It is. But the sky is not falling. The states will find old hospitals/facilities to use. Cremations and simple burials will happen (just like the Spanish Flu). We should have a flu shot (to reduce the symptoms) within a year (as per Johnson and Johnson's head doctor). People will spend...Not at Macy's, but for basics. People who have a job and wish to buy a home...The interest rates have NEVER been this good. Yeah, many people are out of work...But there are jobs out there, grocery stores, trucking, etc. Maybe the market is priced where it should be for now and in the near (6 months) future...
If you haven't figured it out...I'm a pragmatist.
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How many of these people get taken out each year...AIDS, smokers, heart issues, hepatitis, cancer, drugs/alcoholism, diabetes, obesity, age. Yes, they will die from the virus, but their life expectancy was lower anyways. Not to be hardhearted, but the virus will kill them (me), but death was coming for those people (sooner) more than the general population.
The house approved the stimulus plan and the president sign today at around noon. The indices rose slightly for a little while but then lost those gains by the end of the day. I think that is the last good news we'll have for a while.
Keep hearing the same argument over and over. This is not about you having bigger balls or bigger immunity that everyone else. Hospitals are full. I can't see a doctor because he won't open the door. Restaurants are closed. 3 million people just lost their jobs. When is the last time aids or the flu did that?