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[zdreg]

If we're talking Citibank here neither of those are true are they? Even in 2009 there were options on C and they were pretty liquid weren't they?

for the general case the ans. is no.
1. the security you want to short has no listed options trading.
2. lack of liquidity in the options market to open and close the trade

 

[zdreg]

I have been in the business since 1981. I have not seen or heard of whatever you are referring to with any broker I have worked for or was a customer of. This conversation is also not helpful with the topic of the question for this thread.

Have a great weekend....we will have to agree to disagree.

"we will have to agree to disagree." no way.
your response just shows that the heads of stock loan departments have not shared their details with you. why should they?

 

[Sig]

for the general case the ans. is no.
1. the security you want to short has no listed options trading.
2. lack of liquidity in the options market to open and close the trade

Sure, but end the suspence already. It's Namibians isn't it, those shifty bastages with their Afrikaans nonsense and all those wildebeest.

 

[zdreg]

Sure, but end the suspence already. It's Namibians isn't it, those shifty bastages with their Afrikaans nonsense and all those wildebeest.

you asked a serious question and responded with this .... you got taken in by SLE's post.

 

[Sig]

you asked a serious question and responded with this ....

Accusing an unnamed ethnic group of illegal behavior is pretty serious, asking you to clarify what group that is is a serious question you seem dead set on ignoring because somehow you think that makes you appear less racist, I guess. I'm just asking you to man up and name them instead of casting aspersions and accusing anyone who calls you on your little display of racism of being ignorant. I was trying to be a little humerous about it but since that went over your head I'll cut to the chase. Stop being a spineless closet racist, if you're going to be a racist just come out and say it, otherwise STFU with the racist crap or take it to a private chat with volpunter/zzz1 who gets off on that shit as well.

 

[sle]

If we're talking Citibank here neither of those are true are they? Even in 2009 there were options on C and they were pretty liquid weren't they?

Actually, borrow rates/avalibility are a primary driver of the option pricing, it's pretty rare for the tail to wag the dog (that is, options to influence the borrow market).

 

[Robert Morse]

Actually, borrow rates/avalibility are a primary driver of the option pricing, it's pretty rare for the tail to wag the dog (that is, options to influence the borrow market).

Finally I get to agree with you over option pricing ......can you PM me with more specifics of what you are referring to with some class difference with locates and borrow rate?

 

[zdreg]

Accusing an unnamed ethnic group of illegal behavior is pretty serious,

start with a false premise you reach false conclusions. take a course in logic.

 

[zdreg]

Finally I get to agree with you over option pricing ......can you PM me with more specifics of what you are referring to with some class difference with locates and borrow rate?

I and some others would also like to know the answer to this question. we can all gain further understanding from your reply.

 

[Robert Morse]

Which question?