SHOCKER: Another MUSLIM Terrorist

[Ricter]

Quote from a_person:

What difference does it make? While not every muslim is a terrorist, the overwhelming majority of terrorists (a few nutcases like timothy mcveigh notwithstanding) are muslims. If you can't see the common denominator of the terror all over the world now, you never will. Discussing why one muslim snapped and crossed the line while another did not (while tacitly approving the first instead) is a useless exercise in mental masturbation. The fact that Islam creates a disproportionately high number of terrorists is simply undeniable.

So there is no value in trying to understand Islam's production of terrorists, it is sufficient to just kill or capture terrorists as they are discovered?

 

[CaptainObvious]

Quote from Ricter:

You yourself mentioned earlier the "head cases" in that group, so why the objection to a discussion of psychological factors? He may be Muslim, he may say he disagrees, vehemently even, with US foreign policy in Muslim lands, but why did he, of the many who no doubt also fit that generalized description, go so far as to cross the line? The media is not spinning, they are factoring out the constants.

No my friend, they're spinning. They can't spit out the words American citizen fast enough. There's a reason for that. They are pushing he worked alone, and "we have no reason to not believe him when he says so". There's a reason for that too. They are pushing the evil GWB factor. Need I state the obvious reason for that?
The MSM and the adminstration simply do not want to admit there has been no change in regard to terrorism since Obama was elected. None! The MSM and the adminstration certainly implied there would be a change for the better while they were campaigning.

 

[peilthetraveler]

Quote from jem:

by the way... purgatory is in the bible.


CATHOLIC: Look at 1 Corinthians 3:14–15: "If the work which any man has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire." You see, the Latinate word purgatory means a purgation or burning by fire. Paul in these verses refers to a purgation process whereby a man is saved even though his works are burned away. This is precisely what the Catholic Church teaches. A person at death who still has personal faults is prevented from entering into heaven because he is not completely purified. He must go through a period of purgation in order to be made clean, for nothing unclean will enter heaven (cf. Rev. 21:27).

http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/2005/0511sbs.asp

I am not saying I agree with the Catholic argument here.. in fact I would say I lean away from it... but I can tell you this --- just about every major Catholic doctrine is at least partly grounded in the bible.

Whenever someone says Catholics just made it up... I have to wonder who is teaching them.

If you study what the protestants believe and what the Catholics believe... you eventually come to a pretty solid and comprehensive understanding of the bible.

Very interesting. Being forced to go to Catholic church every Sunday as a child, I had heard about purgatory many times. What I was told was things like 1 day in purgatory is worse than 100 years in Hell, so my understanding of purgatory was sort of this place that some people went to for a few days while they wait to see if they get into heaven(which I believed most did) When I never found anything about purgatory or how bad it was there, I figured they made it up, but i guess now maybe I believe they are just "reaching" for straws with some of those passages. Kind of like Pope Leo and the indulgences of his day. Of course, I only read it for a few minutes, and something like this should probably be studied carefully in the original greek before I come to a conclusion about if they are wrong or not.

Thanks for the info though. I appreciate it.

 

[jem]

Under educated Catholic priests from Ireland... preached a lot bullshit to my parents generation and then even my generation.

I am Irish Catholic... and it hurts me to say that but I heard a lot of irresponsible statements from those old irish fools. I wonder if they are also a large ratio of the molesters.

A lot of emphasis on sins and sinning and not close to enough on the sacrifice jesus made.

I remember hearing lecture after lecture about not chewing gum in chruch or leaving church early etc. Its no surprise where Catholic guilt came from.

 

[Ghost of Cutten]

Quote from jem:


2. If the person is not a citizen .. we should profile every one who fits a potential terrorist profile and make sure they leave... or prove we need them here. Then we can move down the safety profile. Why are we allowing foreigners who have not been naturalized shelter here anyway? Do they allow us in their countries? At the very least we should grant them the same rights they would grant us.

So you are saying that no foreigners should be allowed to reside in the US for any length of time?

Almost no countries restrict residence to citizens only.

 

[jem]

Quote from Ghost of Cutten:

So you are saying that no foreigners should be allowed to reside in the US for any length of time?

Almost no countries restrict residence to citizens only.

I did not say that.