Sex Offenders will not have it so good in WA state anymore!

[maxpi]

Quote from riserburn:





So a person can be convicted of a felony with not much other than a possible motive, lack of an alibi, and favorable testimony for the prosecution?

Throw in an ambitious prosecutor, incompetent public defender and you got it. They will make up the testimony if they need it.

 

[whitster]

who is 'they"?

witnesses will make up testimony?

absolutely. sometimes they lie, sometimes they say what they think people want them to say (iow, they may not even realize they are lying, but even memory is fallible when enough suggestion is imposed - see: Memento. this is also why Children are such difficult and problematic witnesses. their grasp on reality and memory is much weaker than adults, and suggestive questioning can PUT ideas/memories into their head that thye THING are real. plus, they testify to please, even if it means lying, in many cases).

the system is "the best in the world" (our criminal system. the civil system here sux), but it still sucks. because: people lie, coincidences happen, nobody has perfect knowledge, etc.

people who do crimes get away with it all the time. and sometimes (much rarer but it happens) the innocent are convicted

like i said, this recent case going to the SCOTUS is very important. the fact that in many states, in many cases, testimony can be introduced that was made in 911 calls and in other ex parte environments when the victim is NOT willing to testify/be cross-examined is blatantly unconstitutional AND injurious to the search for truth.

 

[version77]

Quote from maxpi:

One of them got killed in jail recently actually. The guy that did it said that he heard the priest talking and the priest said he was worth 300 children when asked about the 30 lives he had ruined. The convict said he just thought that it had fallen to him to off the guy so he did.

Well, that is one less priest to worry about...

Jeez, I wonder if he made it to heaven...:eek:

 

[PoundTheRock]

Quote from riserburn:

You are seriously out of touch with typical 14 year old boys. I can assure you that it's a pretty damn good chance that, among his peer group right now, he's the coolest dude they've ever met. His head has probably ballooned several times over with pride. After all, the only reason why he and her got caught was because he was bragging about it.

And the bonus: he's got all kinds of adults telling him he's the victim and that he's done nothing wrong. "No worries kiddo; I think with my dick, too."

See?:



Rearden Metal may not have articulated it in the best way, but he got it right:


It doesn't matter whether you think it's rape or not, public opinion about the gender role differences and sex appeal is far out of favor to make this an issue of outrage.

No, the real trauma comes later. He's just learned that it's OK to "play" the victim as long as there are those that approve. Let's see how many times he can get away with that scenario in life before he gets burned.

Public opinion about the gender role differences? I don't come from that planet, wherever that phrase originated. The male imperative is to spread one's seed, as long as he can pay for it and obey the law, kind of like an NBA player.

You're imposing your morality on this 14-year old kid, who did nothing wrong. Show me a 14-year old who is not 99% penis. He does not need to learn about this victim shit yet.