Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:
A TON of jobs are outsourced to the U.S. The Japanese autoworker who used to build Camry's in Yokohama (or wherever
) has seen his job outsourced to the U.S.
Who the fuck cares if a call center is out sourced? Are we concerned about losing a generation of reservation clerks?
Do you pay up on your commissions or out of benevolence do you pay an extra quarter freakin' penny a share so that your firm can OVER PAY secretaries and compliance officers? Doubtful.
It's the American CONSUMER who slit the throat of many high paid U.S. jobs. It's the American consumer who goes to 50 auto dealers skimming deals but then pays $75 to see a major league baseball game. Thus we have $19 an hour Maxima builders and $25mil a year athletes.
So no bub, it's YOU who thinks he's more privileged than the masses. It's YOU who thinks "I'm American and I should chop wood for $20 an hour while a Chinese builds computers for $20 a month."
It's the Left who're the old school exploiters of third world resources while providing NOTHING in return. Face it: you favor economic apartheid. You wish China was still dirt roads with folks starving in rice patties. All so some bloated unionized fuck can make in one week what 50 people over there could live on.
My "world" extends beyond the closed factory in Asbury Park.
I think you're missing the point. And I am not American, I was not born here. I also do not justify paying $75 dollars for a major league game. Yes I think that the athletes are pre-madonnas who are absurdly paid, but at the same time as long as easily controlled masses can be persuaded by the Colosseum, not much to be said about it.
Still, this is not a conversation about the flawed U.S. consumer and the forces behind establishing that mentality.
The point is that you have a standard of life that cannot be supported by the available jobs. All at the expense of a trend in which few benefit. You also cannot deny what has happened to cities like Buffalo, Rochester, Detroit, Pittsburg and many others. Really, there is a whole country outside Miami, NYC, Atlanta, San Fran & L.A. And things are not too dandy there.
So the whole system is running on debt because it cannot stop the consumerism. The problem is that the consumer is not being given the income opportunity to keep up.
My biggest issue is that the offshoring trend is mostly a scam. It does not really make sense. There is no reason to go to Bangalore or Mumbai, when you can pay the same here for the same quality. I understand the complications of unions and labor laws but at the same time, this is not the solution.
From a geopolitical perspective, do you really think it's wise to offshore your industrial base? How about having your technological property offshored to some retard in India? What if the symbiotic relationships were broken? USA would be F**KED.
You can't deny what's going on. And you cannot keep blaming the average Joe for it. Last I checked, exec compensation was through the roof and the wealth disparity is increasing. So someone is taking a big chunk from this trend. These strategic decisions are not being made by the population but by a group of few. Cost of living being increased, hence the average blue collar worker demands more money, I somehow fail to see how you can blame him for it. People wanting cheaper prices, I somehow fail to see how they are wrong to ask for it, they may actually have problems affording it. Meanwhile, GM and Ford executives are making millions, all after decades of continuous strategic f**k ups, lack of innovation and wastes of money. Yet the unions & pension benefits are the ones to blame (not saying Unions are angels, far from it).
The consumer has a part in this, but the consumerism trend is one heavily instilled by a handful of industries and the government itself. It's an individual matter, it is a sociological matter. It still does not make the offshoring of US jobs the right way to go.
You wanna know my opinion? If the corporations wanna use the excuse of profit margins, then why did they not gather together and ask for union concessions? How about the whole company making concessions, including the overpaid execs? A corporation has a social duty, or at least, it used to have. I think it's fair game for them to bring up their concerns of cheaper labor abroad and profit margins. And give the unions & etc. to agree to lowered & competitive pay. But, noooo, cause that would require the overpaid pig executives to look at their own salaries & bonuses. Why do that, when you can just offshore, kill the quality and then get even more money by claiming how much you decreased costs.
You wanna keep blaming the US consumer? Ok, who are you going to blame when there is no U.S. consumer because the debt faucet was turned off and there are still no jobs to provide income?