Senate Rejects Border Fence
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Yeah....
its odd that there are so many new gun owners in america...
but...
after seeing what happened with tsunamis in japan
and hurricanes in new orleans
you just could not expect this govt would be able to protect you here in So cal from any of the natural or or un natural disasters which might hit us.
all the gun purchases by new owners over the recent years also make that much harder for some future stalinist type interloper to think he could purge the opposition.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge
so note.. I do not think obama is going to try and take over the govt... but if what you are seeing with the IRS and Pressgate and NSA spying does not concern you that govt is all too happy to crush your rights and that committed leftists have no problem using the powers of govt to crush you... you are not paying attention. ..
The price of freedom is vigilence.
but...
after seeing what happened with tsunamis in japan
and hurricanes in new orleans
you just could not expect this govt would be able to protect you here in So cal from any of the natural or or un natural disasters which might hit us.
all the gun purchases by new owners over the recent years also make that much harder for some future stalinist type interloper to think he could purge the opposition.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge
so note.. I do not think obama is going to try and take over the govt... but if what you are seeing with the IRS and Pressgate and NSA spying does not concern you that govt is all too happy to crush your rights and that committed leftists have no problem using the powers of govt to crush you... you are not paying attention. ..
The price of freedom is vigilence.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/10/u...is-down-survey-shows.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
Share of Homes With Guns Shows 4-Decade Decline
The share of American households with guns has declined over the past four decades, a national survey shows, with some of the most surprising drops in the South and the Western mountain states, where guns are deeply embedded in the culture.
The gun ownership rate has fallen across a broad cross section of households since the early 1970s, according to data from the General Social Survey, a public opinion survey conducted every two years that asks a sample of American adults if they have guns at home, among other questions.
The rate has dropped in cities large and small, in suburbs and rural areas and in all regions of the country. It has fallen among households with children, and among those without. It has declined for households that say they are very happy, and for those that say they are not. It is down among churchgoers and those who never sit in pews.
The household gun ownership rate has fallen from an average of 50 percent in the 1970s to 49 percent in the 1980s, 43 percent in the 1990s and 35 percent in the 2000s, according to the survey data, analyzed by The New York Times.
In 2012, the share of American households with guns was 34 percent, according to survey results released on Thursday. Researchers said the difference compared with 2010, when the rate was 32 percent, was not statistically significant.
The findings contrast with the impression left by a flurry of news reports about people rushing to buy guns and clearing shop shelves of assault rifles after the massacre last year at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn.
âThere are all these claims that gun ownership is going through the roof,â said Daniel Webster, the director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research. âBut I suspect the increase in gun sales has been limited mostly to current gun owners. The most reputable surveys show a decline over time in the share of households with guns.â
That decline, which has been studied by researchers for years but is relatively unknown among the general public, suggests that even as the conversation on guns remains contentious, a broad shift away from gun ownership is under way in a growing number of American homes. It also raises questions about the future politics of gun control. Will efforts to regulate guns eventually meet with less resistance if they are increasingly concentrated in fewer hands â or more resistance?
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/10/u...is-down-survey-shows.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
The left is paying attention. They just don't mind when the target is their enemies.
Why is it that these organizations concern me so much more with the left in power than the right? I'm not a big fan of the right any more, but the left seems to have a built in desire to turn these agencies on their perceived domestic and political enemies. It would behoove the right to remember that when they strengthen these agencies while they are in power. That was my major concern with the Patriot act. How would the left act with such a tool. Obama promised to remove it. Of course, we knew once he had such a tool, he would be corrupted by it.
The left only seems to be concerned when the right has such power. Even a blind man can see that. The left has demonstrated beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are not worthy of true bi-partisanship. It would also be wise for the right to remember that. I won't hold my breath, though.
Meanwhile, I'm waiting for true liberals to remember what they once stood for. I won't be holding my breath on that one, either.
Holy shit, you are a dumb son-of-a-bitch, 47. Do you really think that people are more likely to admit they own a gun when government is so openly hostile to people who do? Why not go back to pre-Soviet collapse and ask Russians if they preferred communism to other forms of government in an open survey? Hell, I own a bunch of guns and never miss an opportunity to check "no" on any questionnaire that asks me whether I own firearms.
This article seems to suggest that what the NY times is quoting is pure horseshit, like pretty much everything else that comes out of your pie hole.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/05/04/nra-meeting-lapierre-membership/2135063/
California Anti-Gun rally organized by Obama draws 3 protesters.
That's right! THREE protesters.
http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/...ol-Rally-in-San-Bernardino-Draws-3-Protesters
That's right! THREE protesters.
http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/...ol-Rally-in-San-Bernardino-Draws-3-Protesters
from the same times article quoted by the only person whose name is a favorite terrorist gun. ak 47.
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Detailed data on gun ownership is scarce. Though some states reported household gun ownership rates in the 1990s, it was not until the early 2000s that questions on the presence of guns at home were asked on a broad federal public health survey of several hundred thousand people, making it possible to see the rates in all states.
But by the mid-2000s, the federal government stopped asking the questions, leaving researchers to rely on much smaller surveys, like the General Social Survey, which is conducted by NORC, a research center at the University of Chicago.
Measuring the level of gun ownership can be a vexing problem, with various recent national polls reporting rates between 35 percent and 52 percent. Responses can vary because the survey designs and the wording of questions differ.
But researchers say the survey done by the center at the University of Chicago is crucial because it has consistently tracked gun ownership since 1973, asking if respondents âhappen to have in your home (or garage) any guns or revolvers.â
The centerâs 2012 survey, conducted mostly in person but also by phone, involved interviews with about 2,000 people from March to September and had a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points.
Gallup, which asks a similar question but has a different survey design, shows a higher ownership rate and a more moderate decrease. No national survey tracks the number of guns within households.
Andrew Arulanandam, a spokesman for the National Rifle Association, said he was skeptical that there had been a decline in household ownership. He pointed to reports of increased gun sales, to long waits for gun safety training classes and to the growing number of background checks, which have surged since the late 1990s, as evidence that ownership is rising.
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Detailed data on gun ownership is scarce. Though some states reported household gun ownership rates in the 1990s, it was not until the early 2000s that questions on the presence of guns at home were asked on a broad federal public health survey of several hundred thousand people, making it possible to see the rates in all states.
But by the mid-2000s, the federal government stopped asking the questions, leaving researchers to rely on much smaller surveys, like the General Social Survey, which is conducted by NORC, a research center at the University of Chicago.
Measuring the level of gun ownership can be a vexing problem, with various recent national polls reporting rates between 35 percent and 52 percent. Responses can vary because the survey designs and the wording of questions differ.
But researchers say the survey done by the center at the University of Chicago is crucial because it has consistently tracked gun ownership since 1973, asking if respondents âhappen to have in your home (or garage) any guns or revolvers.â
The centerâs 2012 survey, conducted mostly in person but also by phone, involved interviews with about 2,000 people from March to September and had a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points.
Gallup, which asks a similar question but has a different survey design, shows a higher ownership rate and a more moderate decrease. No national survey tracks the number of guns within households.
Andrew Arulanandam, a spokesman for the National Rifle Association, said he was skeptical that there had been a decline in household ownership. He pointed to reports of increased gun sales, to long waits for gun safety training classes and to the growing number of background checks, which have surged since the late 1990s, as evidence that ownership is rising.