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November 26, 2012
SouthAmerica: The thread âSecretary of Labor of new Obama Administration starting in 2013â has been moved from the economics forum to the âPolitics & Religionâ forum.
This thread is about economist Richard D. Wolf, well known for his work on Marxian economics â and I added to this thread his excellent and informative lectures about Marxian economics.
If I had to guess which moderator moved this thread from the âEconomicsâ forum to the âPolitics & Religionâ forum I would guess that Joe did it, because he is more of an IT person than anything else.
It is obvious to me that Joe did not check the content of that thread before he moved it, but I just wonder if Joe thinks that âMarxian economicsâ is a subject that is related to politics or to religion?
I have no idea why anyone using common sense would move this thread from the economics forum to the politics & religion forum? â the subject of that thread âMarxian economicsâ gives a clear clue to the moderator that it is about economics and not about religion.
Forum Economics
Moderated by Joe, Morganist, TGregg
Forum Politics & Religion
Moderated by Joe
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Joe probably heard what Karl Marx said about religion, and he thought âMarxian economicsâ is some kind of religion that gives opium to the people.
Hah, hah, hah...
Marx and religion
Marxâs most famous statement about religion comes from a critique of Hegelâs Philosophy of Law:
Religious distress is at the same time the expression of real distress and the protest against real distress. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. It is the opium of the people.
The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition, which needs illusions.1
This is often misunderstood, because the full passage is not used. The quote is presented dishonestly by most people as 'Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature...' leaving out the 'heart of a heartless world.' This is more a critique of society that has become heartless and is even a partial validation of religion that it tries to become its heart. In spite of his dislike towards religion, Marx did not make religion the primary enemy of his work and thoughts; if he had regarded religion as a more serious enemy than would have devoted more time on it.
In the above quotation Marx is saying that religionâs purpose is to create illusory fantasies for the poor. Economic realities prevent them from finding true happiness in this life, so religion tells them that this is OK because they will find true happiness in the next life. Although this is a criticism of religion, Marx is not without sympathy: people are in distress and religion provides solace, just as people who are physically injured receive relief from opiate-based drugs.
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1 Critique of Hegelâs Philosophy of Right, K Marx.
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November 26, 2012
SouthAmerica: The thread âSecretary of Labor of new Obama Administration starting in 2013â has been moved from the economics forum to the âPolitics & Religionâ forum.
This thread is about economist Richard D. Wolf, well known for his work on Marxian economics â and I added to this thread his excellent and informative lectures about Marxian economics.
If I had to guess which moderator moved this thread from the âEconomicsâ forum to the âPolitics & Religionâ forum I would guess that Joe did it, because he is more of an IT person than anything else.
It is obvious to me that Joe did not check the content of that thread before he moved it, but I just wonder if Joe thinks that âMarxian economicsâ is a subject that is related to politics or to religion?
I have no idea why anyone using common sense would move this thread from the economics forum to the politics & religion forum? â the subject of that thread âMarxian economicsâ gives a clear clue to the moderator that it is about economics and not about religion.
Forum Economics
Moderated by Joe, Morganist, TGregg
Forum Politics & Religion
Moderated by Joe
*****
Joe probably heard what Karl Marx said about religion, and he thought âMarxian economicsâ is some kind of religion that gives opium to the people.
Hah, hah, hah...
Marx and religion
Marxâs most famous statement about religion comes from a critique of Hegelâs Philosophy of Law:
Religious distress is at the same time the expression of real distress and the protest against real distress. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. It is the opium of the people.
The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition, which needs illusions.1
This is often misunderstood, because the full passage is not used. The quote is presented dishonestly by most people as 'Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature...' leaving out the 'heart of a heartless world.' This is more a critique of society that has become heartless and is even a partial validation of religion that it tries to become its heart. In spite of his dislike towards religion, Marx did not make religion the primary enemy of his work and thoughts; if he had regarded religion as a more serious enemy than would have devoted more time on it.
In the above quotation Marx is saying that religionâs purpose is to create illusory fantasies for the poor. Economic realities prevent them from finding true happiness in this life, so religion tells them that this is OK because they will find true happiness in the next life. Although this is a criticism of religion, Marx is not without sympathy: people are in distress and religion provides solace, just as people who are physically injured receive relief from opiate-based drugs.
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1 Critique of Hegelâs Philosophy of Right, K Marx.
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