Quote from jem:
you are so purposely ignorant.
we have gone over this this a dozen times.
But we will try a new approach.
Based on scientific data or models which are working....
Tell us how much that man made CO2 contributed to the warming you say we are seeing.
a. what warming are you referencing.
b. how do you determine the percentage.
c. what models are you currently using and how have you validated them.
if you cant answer those questions... you yourself know your a full of shit leftist drone.
Quote from pspr:
You are a boorish amateur, futurecunt. The emails and other facts about the NOAA data manipulation are true. Maybe not illegal, but true. In fact, there are more data manipulations discovered this year that throw all their global warming data into question.
CO2 is a trace gas. So minute that it is difficult to measure! You are just a pawn in the quest for more money from taxpayers and government. Al Gore is nearing billionaire status thanks to his global warming loons like yourself. You have been and remain an ignorant patsy in a liberal lie.
The science IS becoming settled. More scientists and journalists are realizing that they have been had and that global warming and CO2 are synonymous with being played for a fool. For instance:
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Uh oh, somebody in Germany in a position to influence others in the Green movement has started thinking for himself, shrugging off suggestions from a climate scientist that âits all in his headâ.
Pierre Gosselin reports about a story by lefty journalist Harald Martenstein of Die Zeit:
âI was ready to open my home to the Schröders as soon as they would no longer be able to take the 60°C heat in the shade. But instead it got colder and colder. At Uckermark in the wintertime it was -20°C for weeks.â
Martenstein also noticed that Britain had endured its coldest winter in 30 years, Florida got covered by icicles, and the cold seemed to be spreading everywhere. So he pleaded that people should emit more CO2 - so that he could stay warm.
His plea, however, prompted an invitation from a âscientist at a very nice climate instituteâ:
He showed me tables and graphs that clearly depicted it was getting warmer. He believed that I was just a victim of my own subjective imagination. Memory can fool you. One thinks that during childhood it was warm from May to September, but in reality its was warm only 3 days, and it is those 3 days that one remembers intensively. The tables from climate scientists, on the other hand, do not lie.â
Martenstein then recounts the past winter and how it seemed to him as being the longest and hardest he could remember, but telling himself that it was probably just his warped subjectivity acting up again. He writes:
But suddenly I read in the paper that a number of climate scientists had changed their minds. Now they were saying it is not going to get warmer, but colder, at least in Europe. Whatever happened to the tables I now ask myself.â
This kind of science would never fly in biology or physics, Martenstein writes. âBut with climate science it seems they are allowed to get away with everything.â
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/04/19/the-unraveling-of-global-warming-is-accelerating/
Quote from pspr:
You are a boorish amateur, futurecunt. The emails and other facts about the NOAA data manipulation are true. Maybe not illegal, but true. In fact, there are more data manipulations discovered this year that throw all their global warming data into question.
CO2 is a trace gas. So minute that it is difficult to measure! You are just a pawn in the quest for more money from taxpayers and government. Al Gore is nearing billionaire status thanks to his global warming loons like yourself. You have been and remain an ignorant patsy in a liberal lie.
The science IS becoming settled. More scientists and journalists are realizing that they have been had and that global warming and CO2 are synonymous with being played for a fool. For instance:
----
Uh oh, somebody in Germany in a position to influence others in the Green movement has started thinking for himself, shrugging off suggestions from a climate scientist that âits all in his headâ.
Pierre Gosselin reports about a story by lefty journalist Harald Martenstein of Die Zeit:
âI was ready to open my home to the Schröders as soon as they would no longer be able to take the 60°C heat in the shade. But instead it got colder and colder. At Uckermark in the wintertime it was -20°C for weeks.â
Martenstein also noticed that Britain had endured its coldest winter in 30 years, Florida got covered by icicles, and the cold seemed to be spreading everywhere. So he pleaded that people should emit more CO2 - so that he could stay warm.
His plea, however, prompted an invitation from a âscientist at a very nice climate instituteâ:
He showed me tables and graphs that clearly depicted it was getting warmer. He believed that I was just a victim of my own subjective imagination. Memory can fool you. One thinks that during childhood it was warm from May to September, but in reality its was warm only 3 days, and it is those 3 days that one remembers intensively. The tables from climate scientists, on the other hand, do not lie.â
Martenstein then recounts the past winter and how it seemed to him as being the longest and hardest he could remember, but telling himself that it was probably just his warped subjectivity acting up again. He writes:
But suddenly I read in the paper that a number of climate scientists had changed their minds. Now they were saying it is not going to get warmer, but colder, at least in Europe. Whatever happened to the tables I now ask myself.â
This kind of science would never fly in biology or physics, Martenstein writes. âBut with climate science it seems they are allowed to get away with everything.â
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/04/19/the-unraveling-of-global-warming-is-accelerating/
Yes, it was manipulated. Other more localized data was also manipulated by adjusting to a new base but not adjusting the historical base thus giving the impression to anyone not aware of the adjustment that there was a big jump in temperatures from the 70's. The investigation only found nothing was criminal since they obviously manipulate data regularly.Quote from futurecurrents:
No, the data was not fraudulently manipulated. You are being fooled by fossil fuel industry and related interests propaganda.
CO2, next to the sun, is the main driver of long term climate change. The fact that it is a trace gas is irrelevant.....But you know that. You just would rather lie than admit you are wrong.
No, the consensus on the science of global warming has never been stronger. All the world's science organizations and somewhere around 97% of climate scientists are sure about the fact of AGW. You are not looking in the right places for the facts. You are more more vested in being right and hating liberals and anything percieved to be left, than you are about seeing the truth.