SEC Probe into 9-11 Israeli connection

Quote from nitro:


DG,

Why is it irresponsible?

nitro

Because the SEC nor anyone connected to the SEC has said that the SEC is undertaking or has undertaken a "Probe into the 9-11 Israeli Connection"
 
Quote from metooxx:



After 9-11 we got a call from the SEC questioning the reason for a number of trades; after that experience all I have to say is they don't have a clue ...

Quote from metooxx:





They actually called on a handful of test 1 lots that half of them were on the wrong side, all of them we were flat on and most of them we made $5 or $10 dollars on. They even were kind enough to read me my rights. When I quit laughing at their ineptitude; I called back and offered our data mining capabilities to them. They declined the offer and politely informed me that they were the experts in that field.

I could tell ...

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13042&perpage=6&pagenumber=2
 
HUH? :confused:

From the _first_ line in the article that was pasted:

SEC SECRET PROBE OF STOCK DEALINGS BEFORE 9/11

Between August 26 and September 11, 2001, a group of speculators, identified by the American Securities and Exchange Commission as Israeli citizens, sold “short” a list of 38 stocks that could reasonably be expected to fall in value as a result of the pending attacks....

Further,

Given all of this, at a minimum the CBOE and government regulators who are conducting the secret investigations have known for some time who made the options puts on a total of 38 stocks that might reasonably be anticipated to have a sharp drop in value because of an attack similar to the 9/11 episode...

Still further,

...Federal investigators are continuing to be so closed-mouthed about these stock trades, and it is clear that a much wider net has been cast, apparently looking for bigger international fish involved in dubious financial activity relating to the 9/11 attacks on the world stock markets. ...

It continues,

...Just a month after the attacks the SEC sent out a list of stocks to various securities firms around the world looking for information...

And then still more,

...Investigators from numerous government agencies are part of a clandestine but official effort to resolve the market manipulations There has been a great deal of talk about the insider trading of American stocks by certain Israeli groups both in Canada and Germany between August 26 and the Sept.11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon...

But there is more,

...Government investigators have maintained a diplomatic silence about a Department of Justice (DOJ) probe of possible profiteering by interested parties with advance knowledge of the attack...

Finally,

...The matter still is under investigation...government investigating bodies -including the FBI, the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) and DOJ...
nitro :confused: :confused:
Quote from dgabriel:



Because the SEC nor anyone connected to the SEC has said that the SEC is undertaking or has undertaken a "Probe into the 9-11 Israeli Connection"
 
Quote from candletrader:



Israel and USA will kick the asses of the scum maniacal terrorists who continue to threaten the world with their lunacy...

God Bless America and Israel and may the fanatical terrorists be buried in pigskin once they have been smoked out and terminated...

LOL. I can never tell if Candle is being sarcastic in his posts, purposely spewing out the same rhetoric that came out of bush's pie hole. Maybe brother candle wants all of us to realize how stupid such statements really sound, or maybe he really does mean what he says. Keep posting though, makes for a good laugh.
 
Quote from Ninja:



The USA will do for sure. Israel would not kick any ass in the world if not protected by the USA.


That is kind of (how can I say stupid without being offensive?)unschooled on your part. Jaines has said over the years that Israel has the third most powerful military, behind the USA and the Russians during the cold war era, and some said at that time that Israel was second. Now the Russians are a lot weaker than they were then. That makes it USA first and Israel second in my book. Now, how powerful Israel's military would be without the billions of aid from the USA I can't say, but basically if you turned Israel loose on the Arab world, within 3 months Israel would be representing all the Arab oil interests at OPEC meetings!!:D
 
Quote from maxpi:



That is kind of (how can I say stupid without being offensive?)unschooled on your part. Jaines has said over the years that Israel has the third most powerful military, behind the USA and the Russians during the cold war era, and some said at that time that Israel was second. Now the Russians are a lot weaker than they were then. That makes it USA first and Israel second in my book. Now, how powerful Israel's military would be without the billions of aid from the USA I can't say, but basically if you turned Israel loose on the Arab world, within 3 months Israel would be representing all the Arab oil interests at OPEC meetings!!:D

Now wouldn't that be a treat :D

And I bet they can manage the Arab population better than we'll ever be...
 
Quote from Ninja:



The USA will do for sure. Israel would not kick any ass in the world if not protected by the USA.

You can only provoke the other kids in the neighborhood if you have a big brother...

Now the big brother does all the fights, even his own home is not safe anymore and the amazing thing is that he still does not realize that his little brother just manipulates him.

What a clever little brother...

Since I know one thing or two about military history I can tell you don't have a clue.

Some of the most amazing (some would say miraculous) battles in modern history were fought by Israel, before and after it had US support.

About the U.S Support: If you didn't know, in its early years Israel did not have American support, since there was the fear it will become communist. Eventually (and unsurprisingly to those who knew the foundations it was constituted upon) Israel emerged as one of the strongest and most stable democracies in the world - more solid then some of our NATO allies.

In Israel war of independence (1948), with no army to speak of, no Air force, not even one tank, and no navy, the one day old county managed to defend and defeat 5 Arab armies (Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Iraq and Egypt). The invading forces were fully equipped with the standard weapons of a regular army of the time - artillery, tanks, armored cars and personnel carriers, in addition to machine guns, mortars and the usual small arms in great quantities, and full supplies of ammunition, oil, and gasoline. The pre-State Jewish forces, on the contrary, had been prevented from acquiring arms by the British and so had no matching artillery, no tanks, and no warplanes. How’s that for miraculous?

In the Six Day’s War (1967) Israel confronted Egypt, Jordan and Syria which also had the help and support in equipment and troops from Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Sudan and Algeria. Within the first 48 hours of the war, Israel destroyed the entire air-force of Egypt, Jordan and Syria and within 6 days it’s completely defeated the three armies while tripling its territory (that’s right, in six days Israel advanced into a territory twice its size). How’s that for amazing?

Those two grand victories were achieved without U.S support!

In connection to current events. In 1981 Israeli fighter jets bombed a French-built nuclear plant near Iraq's capital, Baghdad. It was the world's first air strike against a nuclear plant. With remarkable precision, an undisclosed number of F-15 bombers and F-16 fighters destroyed the Osirak reactor. The attack took place on a Sunday, to prevent harming the French workers at the site who would have taken the day off (too bad). There have been no reported casualties. Israel was highly criticized in all international forums. Now, aren’t we happy Iraq didn’t start producing nuclear bombs more than 20 years ago?


On a side note: A few years ago Israel fighter pilots and US Navy pilots performed live simulated dog fights (air to air combat with simulated missiles). The result: 114 – 4 in favor of the Israeli pilots. Now isn’t it embarrassing????

So, I wouldn’t call Israel a little brother, there are very few armies in the world that can defeat it, with or without U.S support.

TM Trader
 
The USA will do for sure. Israel would not kick any ass in the world if not protected and supported by the USA and Great Britain in the past through massive monetary, military, and political support.

You can only provoke the other kids in the neighborhood if you have a big brother...

Now the big brother does all the fights, even his own home is not safe anymore and the amazing thing is that he still does not realize that his little brother just manipulates him.

What a clever little brother...
 
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