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Quote from Andreas_Lueti:

I do agree in a lot of your points but a systemtrader with 100% rules will not have any problems switching from 10K to 1 million.

If you trade a little bit longer term 1 - 10 days slippage would not that great problem.
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Very correct. if you have a well defined quantitaive system with risk rules and position size rules, the 'system does not and should not care whether you trade 1 million shares or a 1 lot. Of course this assumes that your system has made allowances for slippage and market capacity/liquidity.

Psychology is only a factor for discretionary traders or for pseudo-systematic traders (systematic traders who constantly second-guess the system).
 
Quote from CPTrader:

Very correct. if you have a well defined quantitaive system with risk rules and position size rules, the 'system does not and should not care whether you trade 1 million shares or a 1 lot. Of course this assumes that your system has made allowances for slippage and market capacity/liquidity.

Psychology is only a factor for discretionary traders or for pseudo-systematic traders (systematic traders who constantly second-guess the system).
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Well we know this to be total bunch of bunk, if it where true Richard Dennis and many of the other Turtles would still be around today and not selling software and videos.

Trading is and must always be some what discretionary .... If it wasn't there would be no people in the large institutions trading rooms, it would just be all computers !!!

The plane can fly on auto pilot but there always must be a pilot...

That is where the no limit theory breaks down because we are back to emotion.
 
Quote from Samson77:

This is where your going to lose any trader with any real experience.......

I can tell you first hand after 15 years of Stock / Options trading and now 2 years of Futures and Commodity trading.

That this notion of just adding a zero is totally ridicules.

Many times I have had strings of winning months and then decided to increase my number of shares or cons THEN boom one losing month that wipes out all profits.

You are forgetting about the most important part of trading !

psychology

In my experiences this just can't be done ... as you claim.

We all have our own personal comfort levels that each trader can deal with... anything beyond that ... performance suffers greatly.

It takes me a long time to increase size and I must do it slowly and methodically.

I would very much like to hear any feedback on my post that other SUCCESSFUL traders have had with this issue.
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I firmly beleive that position sizing huge. If we are "smart' about how and when we size up or down, realtive to our own strategy, we can handle the larger sizes. For me, position sizing is all about managing the risk. To each trader it means something different becasue we are trading different plans. I am well aware of what can happen to your logic when the size increases. If you have a plan I believe that focusing on the cents per trade, not the P/L on the trade is the way to handle the risk on a psychological level. While I agree with you that a methodical approach to increasing size is a smart thing to do...I also believe that for some it will take a lot longer to be mentally prepared to size up.

Reluctance to changing your size can be a good thing if it is based on the risks involved(or lack of) or it could just be keeping you safe on a psychological level. Balance is key for me. Afterall, we as traders are pretty much just risk managers. Rule #1 MANAGE THE RISK
 
Hallo Herr Lueti,

können Sie mir bitte genaueres über das Procedere des zu managenden Vermögens sagen.

Meine e-mail Adresse lautet: ggemg@aol.com

Vielen Dank im Voraus
gg
 
Quote from Samson77:

This is where your going to lose any trader with any real experience.......

I can tell you first hand after 15 years of Stock / Options trading and now 2 years of Futures and Commodity trading.

That this notion of just adding a zero is totally ridicules.

Many times I have had strings of winning months and then decided to increase my number of shares or cons THEN boom one losing month that wipes out all profits.

You are forgetting about the most important part of trading !

psychology

In my experiences this just can't be done ... as you claim.

We all have our own personal comfort levels that each trader can deal with... anything beyond that ... performance suffers greatly.

It takes me a long time to increase size and I must do it slowly and methodically.

I would very much like to hear any feedback on my post that other SUCCESSFUL traders have had with this issue.
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You're blowing in the wind.
 
Quote from Andreas_Lueti:

That is an easy one.


Lets say you will get 5 millions from us and you can make 50% again
you earn between $ 250.000 and $ 500.000.


Any further questions?
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U might want to get in touch with Steve Cohen if you expect a 50% performance.
 
Quote from Andreas_Lueti:

That is an easy one.

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Lets say you will get 5 millions from us and you can make 50% again
you earn between $ 250.000 and $ 500.000.

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Any further questions?
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Hmm,

You want me te make 2.5 millions? OK, 0.25 for you, 2.25 for me.

Any further questions?

nononsense
 
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