SCOTUS thread

[Tony Stark]

You are not answering the question, Biden's approval rating is at 70% among blacks, what's Trump's average for you to equate it to Biden?

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/biden-approval-black-hispanic-voters/

 

[Tony Stark]

Obama got 11 points less turnout for his midterms and won re-election, you are just projecting your narrative.

Obama had a net approval rating over 10 points higher than Biden and a black approval rating around 90.

 

[Cuddles]

What are you comparing it to?



Democrats overall support abortion rights by 10 points more than Latino Dems

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-abortion/
https://www.pewresearch.org/race-et...y-so-of-gop/pre_2022-09-29_nsl-politics_2-01/

Among blacks, support is lower than overall Dem support as well



AGAIN, lower turn out compared to what? For a sitting President, the turnout was highest in four decades and you are dismissing it because it doesn't suit your narrative.

The national election rate (actual voters per 100 eligible voters) in 2022 was 52.2%—the second-highest that the Census Bureau has recorded for a midterm in four decades. The highest was in 2018, at 53.4%. (The 2020 presidential election, meanwhile, recorded a very high rate of 66.3%.) This, along with the fact that the 2022 midterms also saw the highest rate of voter registration recorded by the Census Bureau, suggests that the nation has entered an era of a highly energized electorate, perhaps spurred by a rising level of partisanship.

by the same token, blaming shit on the progs when midterms had record youth vote is kinda bs.

 

[exGOPer]

And that's precisely an "enlightened centrist/bothsides" take.

That's your take because you don't understand enlightened centrism or both sideism. I am talking about privilege politics, the kind many progs practice because the end result doesn't have an effect on their own lives.

So a pacifist decides not to fight as he's murdered, both sides equally responsible?

Irrelevant

A dude gets murdered as someone witnesses it and does nothing, equally responsible?

Did the person watching have a say?

Sitting back and watching it happen w/some misguided notion of accelerationism or even voting 3rd party isn't the same as rolling back rights and democracy.

First, conservatives don't believe in democracy or rights for most groups, so them going on a riot spree is nothing new or even a new threat.

Second, KNOWING the fact that conservatives don't believe in democracy or rights, progs letting Conservatives take power has the same effect as rolling back rights and democracy. You saw that TODAY with the SC decision.

Is the end result the same? Sure, but that's the system we have. There's no Bolshevists overturning elections here or rollback of religious liberties by legislation to call it horseshoe..

You still don't get it.

Cons never believed in those anyway, they have fought it every time. Why are you even bringing up isolated events that perfectly match conservative ideological patterns as if its an aberration.

 

[exGOPer]

by the same token, blaming shit on the progs when midterms had record youth vote is kinda bs.

I didn't blame progs for midterms, progs have zero effect in high turnout elections which 2018 and 2022 were.

 

[exGOPer]

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So you are showing majority approval for Biden among blacks and yet won't show Black approval for Trump?

57% and 52% approval for Biden, what was Trump's rating?

 

[Tony Stark]

So you are showing majority approval for Biden among blacks and yet won't show Black approval for Trump?

57% and 52% approval for Biden, what was Trump's rating?

Point is both Trump and Biden are far below the 85-95% of Obama and Clinton.



"only 55% say they are likely to support him in the general election."

 

[exGOPer]

Point is both Trump and Biden are far below the 85-95% of Obama and Clinton.



"only 55% say they are likely to support him in the general election."



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I am not asking for your conclusion, I am asking what was Trump's approval rating among blacks because even your numbers show that majority blacks approve of Biden even when other groups do not.

By the way, you may want to check latest Gallup poll where the approval rating has climbed.

 

[Good1]

Just letting you know that SCOTUS just now dismantled the last great bastion of affirmative institutional racism in America. Oh, there is maybe one more bastion or racism, in the military, for national security. There, it is still legal to fill positions based on quotas of skin color...for national security.

 

[Tony Stark]

I am not asking for your conclusion, I am asking what was Trump's approval rating among blacks because even your numbers show that majority blacks approve of Biden even when other groups do not.

By the way, you may want to check latest Gallup poll where the approval rating has climbed.

Other groups dont normally approve of democrats 85-95%.To win an election a democrat needs 90+ % of the black vote and high turnout.Good luck getting that with an approval rating in the 50s.

Still double digit upside down in Gallup.The most a president who won re election was upside down at this point is -0.8.Biden is -11.Trump was -10 at this point.Unlike Trump Biden needs to win by 4-5 points.