SCOTUS thread

[Tony Stark]

AGAIN, down compared to what?

Why are you ignoring who was in the WH?

You are comparing apples to oranges.

Last midterm.

Because blacks and progs hate both Trump and Biden.

 

[exGOPer]

Last midterm.

Because blacks and progs hate both Trump and Biden.

Why are you comparing Dem turnout when a Republican was in the WH vs a Democrat?

Can you show me approval ratings for Trump and Biden among Blacks and Progs? Just so that you can back up your statement.

 

[Tony Stark]

Why are you comparing Dem turnout when a Republican was in the WH vs a Democrat?

Can you show me approval ratings for Trump and Biden among Blacks and Progs? Just so that you can back up your statement.

Both far below the typical 85-95 % that Obama and Clinton had.

 

[exGOPer]

Both far below the typical 85-95 % that Obama and Clinton had.

I didn't ask about Clinton or Obama, you are equating Trump and Biden, show their comparisons because it's flat out false.

 

[exGOPer]

Both far below the typical 85-95 % that Obama and Clinton had.

And for that high approval rating, both Clinton and especially Obama had horrible turnout rates - Obama had the worst midterm turnout in decades.

 

[Tony Stark]

I didn't ask about Clinton or Obama, you are equating Trump and Biden, show their comparisons because it's flat out false.

I am equating Trump and Biden black support to the norm which is Obama and Clinton,both Trump and Biden are 30 points or more below.

 

[Tony Stark]

And for that high approval rating, both Clinton and especially Obama had horrible turnout rates - Obama had the worst midterm turnout in decades.

Good luck trying to win with a 10 point black turnout drop in 2024

 

[exGOPer]

I am equating black support to the norm which is Obama and Clinton,both Trump and Biden are 30 points or more below.

You are not answering the question, Biden's approval rating is at 70% among blacks, what's Trump's average for you to equate it to Biden?

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/biden-approval-black-hispanic-voters/

 

[exGOPer]

Good luck trying to win with a 10 point black turnout drop in 2024

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Obama got 11 points less turnout for his midterms and won re-election, you are just projecting your narrative.

 

[Cuddles]

I am talking of decay of liberal institutions at the hands of Federalist Society types, bunch of loons rioting was for their cult hero Trump and is not even close to the same thing especially since these loons are uneducated types who can't even form a coherent sentence for their ideology. You can't say the same thing about progs who know what Republicans keep doing with courts and yet they ignore it because every four years some Green Party loser who can't win a local election promises the moon.

And that's precisely an "enlightened centrist/bothsides" take. So a pacifist decides not to fight as he's murdered, both sides equally responsible? A dude gets murdered as someone witnesses it and does nothing, equally responsible? Sitting back and watching it happen w/some misguided notion of accelerationism or even voting 3rd party isn't the same as rolling back rights and democracy. Is the end result the same? Sure, but that's the system we have. There's no Bolshevists overturning elections here or rollback of religious liberties by legislation to call it horseshoe.

I am talking about the Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins types, you can find a lot of anti-vaxxers in that group as well.

and I don't really see progs identifying w/those groups.