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You said flat tax after not before the post I quoted. .

You are a degenerate liar, right inside of your own goddamn quote i said that i was talking about a flat tax, learn to read, and quit lying you moron.

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Originally Posted by gwb-trading:
"The red states do not really want the military bases that were forced on them."

One of the dumbest statements made. You'd have to fight the red states Governors and citizens and business owners tooth and nail to get them to let go of their cash cow military bases.
I'll second your entire post. Recent history proves how completely off base that portion of gwb's post was. All States, Red and Blue alike, fight like hell whenever there is even talk of shutting down one of their military bases.

Your charts show a negative net flow of federal money into blue states and a positive net flow into red states. Red State Governors champion lower taxes and tightening the federal belt on everything except military spending and corporate welfare, but they'd gripe plenty if a smaller federal pie resulted, unless of course their own slice of pie remained the same or got larger. Is this a sign of stupidity in Red State governors, or is it unconscionable political pandering and hypocrisy? The latter, no doubt; thus less forgivable.
 
Originally Posted by gwb-trading:
. Red State Governors champion lower taxes and tightening the federal belt on everything except corporate welfare,


I would love for you to explain how handing money to people, who do not work, who produce nothing (welfare) is the same as letting a company that makes money hold onto more of their own earnings. How is allowing a company to keep more of their own hard earned profits the same as the government taking money from tax paying citizens and handing giving that cash to someone else?

Whenever i hear people like you calling tax breaks "welfare" it just goes to prove the point that left wing statists believe the money people earn is the governments first, and the person who earned the money second.

I will reiterate, in big bold letters so that even someone as thick as bigarrow can understand, i do not believe anyone should get special tax breaks that are designed only for them, i believe in a flat tax, however, if you give me a choice between letting a company keep more of there own hard earned dollars, or jacking up the amount the company pays just to punish them, and keep things equal, im not jealous/vindictive enough to want to punish the company and make them pay more taxes, just to make things fair. If the choice is between raising a companies tax rate to 30%+ to match my own, or allowing them to keep more of their hard earned dollars for themselves i will choose the latter every single time.
 
The flat tax will never fly because most folks understand the "marginal utility of a dollar", while they may not call it that. I think it was Tsing who explained marginal utility here in another context not more than a week ago! It's just not going to happen.
 
You are a degenerate liar, right inside of your own goddamn quote i said that i was talking about a flat tax, learn to read, and quit lying you moron.

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Your first post of this thread:
I agree with what you said, but dont fall into the liberal trap of conflating welfare with TARP, lets be real clear here, on top of paying taxes, and producing something of value, and creating jobs, banks paid back the money which was loaned to them, it is such a joke when liberals try to compare the leeches who provide nothing to society, with businesses who get loans/tax breaks from the government, in one instance people are loaned money, or they are being allowed to keep more of the money THAT THEY THEMSELVES EARNED. In the other instance, people are being handed money from the government for doing jackshit and producing nothing of value to society.

I am no fan of banks, and i think everyone should pay an equal amount of taxes but lets be realistic there is no comparison between welfare and government loans/subsidies/tax breaks to businesses who provide value to society.

Damn you can't even lie well. What's your problem max with all the practice you have you should be good at it by now.
 
I did not get what you are saying?

the marginal utility of that dollar is almost always going to have more utility for a person than the govt. (I suppose except at perhaps low property tax rates.

2ndly... given that to be the case... why have an personal income tax at all.
the govt already takes in huge funds... wastes huge amounts and if we are going to talk about utility... it would be far more useful to have the govt print than tax.


The flat tax will never fly because most folks understand the "marginal utility of a dollar", while they may not call it that. I think it was Tsing who explained marginal utility here in another context not more than a week ago! It's just not going to happen.
 
Your first post of this thread:


Damn you can't even lie well. What's your problem max with all the practice you have you should be good at it by now.

LOL, you really are an obnoxious troll. You blame your own lack of ability to read, or interpret things on other people. This is generally a quality that is reserved for people of subpar intelligence. You are so stupid, that you dont even realise that you are grossly lacking basic reading skills. The reason you became a shingler becomes more glaringly obvious with each one of your posts.
 
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