Scientists...Got it wrong again!

The occult view of the absolute

There is nought but the absolute (existence)

You cannot ask what exists outside of the absolute.. there is no outside.. it is all there is

It is mental in nature, ie: the universe is an expression of the absolute's self awareness

Existence in it's pure state is oneness, it is diversity of that oneness that leads to self awareness.. hence the goal of life is to experience and become aware
 
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Hi Hansel, thanks very much for your comments . Glad you are enjoying the discussion.
Yes and no answers then, but with a little explanation thrown in.

1) Is Existence is a stand-alone entity in the context of which all existing occurs?


Yes.
Existence exists

2) Can Existence exist in the absence of all other existing - that is, in the absence of any entity that is not Existence per se?


Yes.
Here lies the philosophical abstract concept which kinda totals any God/Creator concept clean out of the picture in my opinion.

If all things potential and actual did not exist, including existence itself, what can exist? Nothing. Ergo: nothing exists.
That you could say is an intuitive concept of a state or condition, even described as unknowable perhaps, which exists so that all things do not.
God exists or not. God has potential to exist or not. But God in any form one way or another, or not, needs some existence itself to exist or not.


3) Is Time a necessary element of Existence?


No.
Existence exists for Time to exist in

Thanx. I'm having a busy day but I'll get back to you.
 
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don't take too long we atheists aren't going to live forever :D

Atheists are already dead, life is pointless if it isn't eternal
 
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Atheists are already dead, life is pointless if it isn't eternal
i feel sorry for some one who thinks this life is pointless and has been deluded into thinking there is some great eternal reward after death.you are wasting the only life you are going to have if you dont live it for for what you have now.
 
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i feel sorry for some one who thinks this life is pointless and has been deluded into thinking there is some great eternal reward after death.you are wasting the only life you are going to have if you dont live it for for what you have now.

Well that's because you are a moron and think I'm religious.. occult science, philosophy and even quantum mechanics tear at the veil of maya and reveal reality for those that are not pre programmed by a dead pop culture reared on Oprah and Chopra
 
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Well that's because you are a moron and think I'm religious.. occult science, philosophy and even quantum mechanics tear at the veil of maya and reveal reality for those that are not pre programmed by a dead pop culture reared on Oprah and Chopra
occult science? lol. superstition is not the product of an educated scientific mind.
 
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occult science? lol. superstition is not the product of an educated scientific mind.

Everything an occultist believes is being verified by cutting edge physics

The occultist smiles to himself when he hears scientists claiming the universe is beginning to look like a giant thought.. a far older theory than any physicist grappling with wave particle duality would admit

It's no coincidence that the Western Mystery tradition uses the Qabalistic tree of life as it's mandalla depicting the 10 emanations (planes of existence) and the one invisible sephiroth Daath

Compare that to superstring theory which requires 10 dimensions and one extra dimension to resolve the 5 competing string theories into one (M theory)

And the 4 elements of fire, air, water and earth are merely quaint terminology corresponding to the 4 forces of science.. electromagnetic, weak nuclear, strong nuclear and gravity

You should really educate yourself.. there is nothing new under the sun :p
 
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