Scientists...Got it wrong again!
- Thread starter peilthetraveler
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No I donât think so, There is a similarity in this thread between those who want to believe religion above all else and are only looking at selective data to do so.
Jem can only look at one particular word (no surprise heâs notoriously thick) , peilthetraveler is only looking at extinct trilobite fossils ignoring the similar looking existing Triops, whilst yourself although I may say, displaying a far more intelligent and erudite position than either of those two, prefers to look away with a hand waving âWhat more really needs to be said ? ". Again not looking at the data, but selecting only particular data.
There is no chasm here. There are concepts of God / Creators and there is a concept and the fact of existence.
Without existence itself there is no beginning, no pre beginning. Without existence no thing can exist. There is no God, no Creator unless existence either can or does first exist.
It is an axiom of irreducible principal. You cannot escape it. Neither can God, nor can anything.
this guy does a pretty good job of destroying the virgin birth myth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv0pgcHkrP0
C'mon, you can guys could get away with this BS before Google & Yahoo were around, but not now. It took me all of 10 seconds to come up with this.
http://www.trilobites.info/triloimposters.htm
except for the problem that it is very probable we can ever prove it. So frankly string theory, multiverses and 11+ dimensional space are nothing more than beliefs, based on faith in limited modelling of the cosmos.
Testable theory. Developing models, testing them, redefining, creating reliable knowledge..
AKA Scientific Method ... ever hear of it
Thx. Pretty wild stuff.
Gives new meaning to the phrase"All I know is that I do not know..."
...'cause now I also don't know in all those extra dimensions...
Quote from killthesunshine:
Testable theory. Developing models, testing them, redefining, creating reliable knowledge..
AKA Scientific Method ... ever hear of it
even a number of scientists complain that they are going overboard in thinking that just because it fits the math or the model, doesn't always means that is the way things are in reality
Quote from TraderZones:
even a number of scientists complain that they are going overboard in thinking that just because it fits the math or the model, doesn't always means that is the way things are in reality
"the way things are"? who can know all that?
We create models, we make the map as detailed as possible but a map is not the terrain
The problem in proving dimensions beyond our senses really is vexing to scientists. They admit that if the theory cannot be observed and tested in some manner, it is not science, it is philosophy.
Still, the possibilities are intriguing.
I am also reminded of something I heard once from one of the Gospels, where Jesus is supposed to have said "The Kingdom of Heaven is spread upon the earth, and men do not see it."
Now, that could be interpreted as pedestrian as people ignoring the wonders in the world around them - but why can't a string-theory physicist jump up and say "He's making the very first commentary on the concurrency of the space-time multiverse!!"
Who knows...?