vhehn, does it not strike you as odd, that someone who would title themselves as "Bishop" would disregard a tenent of the faith that if removed , makes useless the Redeemer Himself ?
I am well aquainted with this heretical gentleman.
Scientists...Got it wrong again!
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vhehn, does it not strike you as odd, that someone who would title themselves as "Bishop" would disregard a tenent of the faith that if removed , makes useless the Redeemer Himself ?
I am well aquainted with this heretical gentleman.
how can it make sense to you when we dont know who wrote most of the bible or what it initially said. the one thing we know for sure. jesus never wrote a word down. we only have copies of copies a generation later.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUfSuninCn0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUfSuninCn0&feature=related
i am guessing that to some people being intellectually honest has to override dogma. it should be meaningful to believers when former believers come to the conclusion that all is not as we have been told.
I would offer two points in reply:
1) If Mr. Spong was truly being "intellectually honest", why would he insist on keeping such a relic as "Bishop" associated with his name. Could it be to sell more books or have some sort of instant credibility with those not familiar with him.
2) I assume the same would be true when former atheists and agnostics come to a faith in Christ.
no. not if they come to faith. but if they ever come with evidence i want to hear about it. none ever has.
there wouldnt be any need for blind faith if there was any evidence.
We argued Bart Ehrman previously, I think last December, I will try to find my reply as it was lengthy.
Mr. Ehrman is definitely a man of letters, no doubt about that.
I would say, by analogy, that Mr. Ehrman is like some of the people on this trading site that find no use in "volume", whereas others, myself included, find immense advantage in looking at volume and its derivatives. Two people looking at the same data, drawing far different conclusions.
pretty funny watching the theists go at each other's throats
that's my god i know Him! NO, you don't my God is better
that's my god i know Him! NO, you don't my God is better
Quote from killthesunshine:
what's makes sense to you that you are willing to suspend all reason?
what portion that makes "sense", makes you crazy?
what is it that "makes sense" to YOU, in this context?
i ask you earnestly because it's escapes me
probably about the same amount of sense is cosmologists and other scientists, who are basically quarreling over whether the universe is 10, 11 dimensions or more, and whether putting us in a multiverse (a possibly infinite number of simultaneous different universes) is the best explanation for everything they cannot understand... You cannot make this stuff up:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-theory
Actually, the whole idea of string theory and multiverses existing in the same space-time is pretty cool - and the physicists seem to agree the underlying math is sound.