Science, Meta-physics and Trading

freealways · Apr 9, 2003

In the case of the fish it appears as if you, Mr Saynt-know-it-all, was taken in by a publicity stunt.

How could you possibly take the story seriously enough to want to expose it ? Dead fish cannot talk

Your nonsense statement is what really tops everything you have said ( "This is what the absence of rational thought looks like! Dumb isn't it!?")

There are countless examples in history where something was accepted by 'the scientific' world as fact only to be later refuted
with something else becoming generally accepted in its stead.
( but often not without a great struggle and accompanied by a lot of ridicule).

Anyone who seriously believes that he knows it all and that Truth is fixed has not read his or her history book and clearly is insane.
(or, at the very least, gullible).

freealways

limitdown · Apr 9, 2003

Quote from PoundTheRock:

http://www.smdistributor.com/toys_novelties/boogie_bass.htm

so, how is this relevant, even by a stretch, relevant to trading or these discussion boards?

limitdown · Apr 9, 2003

Quote from marketsurfer:

gann,

yes. trading is application, market analysis is thought/ creation/ formulation of perspective. excellent post !

best,

surfer

agreed

freealways · Apr 9, 2003

He Saynt, I have got a good diea.

Remember when you were talking about trepanning (drilling a hole in one's head so as to allegedly increasing one's consciousness).

Personally I am inclined to accept that there may well be some value in what is being claimed that it achieves.

However, as you say, scientific people like yourself do not get taken in by subjective opinions.

On the other hand it is easier to prove something than to disprove it.

What about it if we get an objective opinion i.e. yours ? All that needs to be done is for you to do a bit of trepanning on yourself and we will soon know whether there is something of value in the idea (or not).

I read an article about the subject a long time ago and there were photo's as well. Apparently one can do it oneself with the help of a (fixed in place) overhead drill which is under the control of oneself. Easy does it.

Please don't be a spoil sport and back away from the idea.

freealways

Saynt Chaosity · Apr 9, 2003

Quote from freealways:

In the case of the fish it appears as if you, Mr Saynt-know-it-all, was taken in by a publicity stunt.

the article excerpt i posted is genuine. if anyone was duped, it is you.

How could you possibly take the story seriously enough to want to expose it ? Dead fish cannot talk [/B]

neither can live ones.

Your nonsense statement is what really tops everything you have said ( "This is what the absence of rational thought looks like! Dumb isn't it!?")

There are countless examples in history where something was accepted by 'the scientific' world as fact only to be later refuted
with something else becoming generally accepted in its stead.
( but often not without a great struggle and accompanied by a lot of ridicule).

Anyone who seriously believes that he knows it all and that Truth is fixed has not read his or her history book and clearly is insane.
(or, at the very least, gullible).[/B]

yes, this is a virtue of science not a drawback as you suggest.

freealways · Apr 9, 2003

O.K. we'll leave Saynt to ponder my suggestion.

In the meantime let us be a bit more serious and talk a while about synchronicity and see whether that could be of some help in trading.

My dictionary explains synchronicity as a "Coincidence of events that seem to be meaningfully related, conceived in Jungian theory as an explanatory principle on the same order as causality."

As you may recall I gave an example of a computer generated series of (almost) random numbers having such a close relationship with race resuls that it is mind boggling.

One's reasoning says 'It cannot be". Yet, the statistics in that case said that there was only a 1 chance in 300,000 of the result being due to chance.

Pretty good indication of the reliability of the results not being due to chance.

Yet ........................ , one can never REALLY know whether the results were due to chance or not.

Remember the story about an infinite number of monkeys busily typing away on their typewriters ? At some stage, given enough time, one of them will eventually come up with the complete works of Shakespear.

Is there some value in synchronicity ?
Can it be used in us trading the markets ?

freealways

Saynt Chaosity · Apr 9, 2003

Quote from limitdown:

agreed

agree with what??? what did he say? that trading is application and analysis is thought?? whoop dee do da.

Saynt Chaosity · Apr 9, 2003

Quote from freealways:

He Saynt, I have got a good diea.

Remember when you were talking about trepanning (drilling a hole in one's head so as to allegedly increasing one's consciousness).

Personally I am inclined to accept that there may well be some value in what is being claimed that it achieves.

However, as you say, scientific people like yourself do not get taken in by subjective opinions.

On the other hand it is easier to prove something than to disprove it.

What about it if we get an objective opinion i.e. yours ? All that needs to be done is for you to do a bit of trepanning on yourself and we will soon know whether there is something of value in the idea (or not).

I read an article about the subject a long time ago and there were photo's as well. Apparently one can do it oneself with the help of a (fixed in place) overhead drill which is under the control of oneself. Easy does it.

Please don't be a spoil sport and back away from the idea.

freealways

apparently you've tried it yourself (and went in a little too deep

)

freealways · Apr 9, 2003

Saynt said : "the article excerpt I posted is genuine. if anyone was duped, it is you."

Of course, of course, it is always the other person who is wrong. It is never, NEVER ever, Saynt.

However, ask yourself, if freealways had not heard about nor read the story on what basis do you claim that it is he who was duped ?

Taking it a little bit further, granted that dead fish cannot talk how come you took the article serious enough to want to comment on it ?

And how would you know that in a different dimension it wouldn't be possible for dead fish to talk ?

And, if there is a God (as I certainly believe and accept an an unavoidable conclusion of what I perceive all around me), and this God (ipse facto) is almighty, who are you to say that God cannot talk through a dead fish.

Yes, I KNOW you are always right. However please give us your reasonings.

freealways

Saynt Chaosity · Apr 9, 2003

Quote from freealways:

Saynt said : "the article excerpt I posted is genuine. if anyone was duped, it is you."

Of course, of course, it is always the other person who is wrong. It is never, NEVER ever, Saynt.

However, ask yourself, if freealways had not heard about nor read the story on what basis do you claim that it is he who was duped ?

Taking it a little bit further, granted that dead fish cannot talk how come you took the article serious enough to want to comment on it ?

And how would you know that in a different dimension it wouldn't be possible for dead fish to talk ?

And, if there is a God (as I certainly believe and accept an an unavoidable conclusion of what I perceive all around me), and this God (ipse facto) is almighty, who are you to say that God cannot talk through a dead fish.

Yes, I KNOW you are always right. However please give us your reasonings.

freealways

first of all it is likely there is no God. (absence of proof)

two, if there is a God why would he need or want to talk thru a fish, dead or alive?

thirdly, God would be omnipotent, so why would he talk at all?

last, why would an omnipotent God want anything??