Quote from lundy:
Mecro, Hayman,
I apologize if I was misleading when speaking of order ID's. I don't know the in's and out's of whats on the specialist book. I just assumed it was that way because I trade very thin stocks. Sometimes a stock won't even print for 5 minutes. I figured the specialist could easily see the traders. If my assumption is wrong, then it's wrong, no biggie.
However, I do trade listed stocks and I know enough about them to make money. Specifically I trade the 36 most volatile stocks between 60 and 110 with volume between 100k and 2 million.
Today I traded DHR, BRL, LEH, OMC, AZO, LEN, AMG.
AZO 1.06 gain
DHR .10 gain
BRL .12 gain
LEH .35 gain
OMC .32 gain
LEN .40 loss
AMG .27 gain
I grossed 1.72 on 7 trades. I know what the specialist game is about, enough to make consistent profit from it. BTW, all my trades were on the long side today.
I feel my edge is due to the auction nature of the listed stocks.
Cheers to the specialist!
For anyone struggling with listed stocks, heres some valuable insights I gleaned from Livermore's book:
It's not about knowing if a stock is going to go up or down, it's about knowing when it will make the move.
How I apply that to my trading is I wait for the specialist to flush the daytraders... I wait until the big move starts, not 1 tick early, and not 1 tick late. (at least thats my mentality)
There is no way the specialist is going to change everything for my 100(0) shares when he has big blocks of trades to execute, and he's already bought all the shares he needs for the big move up. The trick is to wait until everyone else is flushed out, or as J.L puts it, the right psychological point.
Very nice trades ...
What do you use to time your entry and exit...Looks like you are a tape reader.... Also, Do you take one at a time or do hold more then one positions at once...?
I have been looking at NYSE stocks lately. They look so much easier but looks can be deceiving so I stick with the devil I already know... NASD and Futures... May try when I finish moving ...Should have my computers and desk set up by mid next week at the new place....Cant wait to really start trading again.
NK
