Scalping with a hard stop loss

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Hard stops in ES and NQ futures sometimes KILL me and sometimes they SAVE me.
For me, the verdict is still out.....I think I need an automated system.
 
Why would that make a difference?
Speed for one, intelligence for another. With these recent markets, a 5 pt move in a quarter second in NQ is typical.
Damn it moves fast. I need the stop to be adaptive. That's what is missing with manual orders. Yeah, I can move them, but many times I'm too late.
 
Try to add price action than just staying with indicators as Price is faster than indicators, plus indicators change reality of what is going on with the chart. Trading less often and make losing smaller percentage allows for increase of size. Indicators are ok but they are usually better to exit based off price action, like you can't see size of range of a bar with a moving average immediately. IMHO

And we are ALL predicting the future when we trade or for that fact anything we do in life, you cross the street is predicting that traffic will stop at red light.
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Or hoping it will stop....or counting on it...best hedge though...too many youth texting and driving....
 
Speed for one, intelligence for another. With these recent markets, a 5 pt move in a quarter second in NQ is typical.
Damn it moves fast. I need the stop to be adaptive. That's what is missing with manual orders. Yeah, I can move them, but many times I'm too late.
It is too tight if you are being stopped out before you can react. Can you provide a recent example on a chart..entry...sl..etc
 
The authorization channel from Post #55 was the right idea, but I now have a better setting for it, and my new "automated" stop loss is triggered when what I call the instantaneous moving average makes contact with what I am calling the moving average cluster.
My "better" setting for the authorization channel (personal reference 6···12) was too slow, and in fact, the original authorization channel from Post #55 (personal reference 5?58) which is now nothing more than the red moving average (see below) was too slow as well. (It also takes the place of the most resent setup's moving average cluster.)

The key for me (I believe) is the zebra Battenburg moving average, which I began plotting on my charts last week.

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The "better" authorization channel is now more of a price magnet moving average (the bold black trend line) with the strength of the attraction between the magnet and the candlesticks conceptualized as increasing rather than decreasing as the distance between the two grows wider.

Longer-term considerations are deemed essentially irrelevant for intraday trading, though I still find it worthwhile to refer to higher-timeframe charts in that they often supply added confidence for going ahead and following through on what the Battenburg moving average tells me I ought to be doing. Such MAs have been deleted from my trading setup though in that they just muddy up the waters. (The Battenburg moving average has begun giving me a much better winning percentage of trades...)

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Unfortunately, this manner of trading did away with my dynamic stop loss and take profit targets, which must instead be set either at the local high or low, or at what I call statistical support/resistance levels as defined by specified deviation settings for the bands belonging to the moving average envelope associated with the price magnet moving average (as a hard stop loss) and at the *price magnet itself (for the take-profit target).

*Nothing to do with Option Expiration Price Magnets
 
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It is too tight if you are being stopped out before you can react. Can you provide a recent example on a chart..entry...sl..etc
Totally agree...my stops are too tight. I'm working on this......to optimize stops based on price action.
I'm trying to use highest high - lowest low for the past 10 bars.....as a proxy for the stop range.....200 ticks per bar.
 
Totally agree...my stops are too tight. I'm working on this......to optimize stops based on price action.
I'm trying to use highest high - lowest low for the past 10 bars.....as a proxy for the stop range.....200 ticks per bar.

How do you know if you receiving all the ticks, many of data providers do not give all the prints.
 
How do you know if you receiving all the ticks, many of data providers do not give all the prints.

Pay for the data from a known and trusted provider, like CME or CQG or Bloomberg. Free data is naturally suspect.
 
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