Scalping in USA

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redduke


Please read article on elitetrader about Martin Schwartz.

After multiple years trading loss ,which was financed with he's work as analytic ,Martin Schwartz buyed place on exchange for
for most (some 50%) of the money which he have had


Schwartz,www.markdcook.com ,mark minervini -
http://minerviniprivateaccess.com/ ,J.Simonis
from rentec ,Ken Uston & co

from author point of view relevant person's

If you read Martin's own book "Pit Bull", it is all there. He was not a scalper.
 
One should not forget that leasing a seat on an exchange and not having one is like wearing a cheap suit bought at a local market or an exclusive boutique over at Knightsbridge :) At a certain level you are expected to have rather than not have. Pit based trading most likely will join dinosaurs at your local history museum.
 
Quote from RedDuke:

Hi Terry Hesticles,

While your post contains a lot of info, there is really not much that can be ralated to scalping aside from risk/reward and fequency of trades. It sounds like some educational material. Trust me in real live scalpers do not use 1 min charts, it is ancient history for them. Scalping these days heavily ralies on immediate price action, market depth games and times & sales. Also, bigger plyers like Paul Rotter (flipper) play all kind of games to trick peoples into trades via fake # of large bids and offers.

By the way scalping was originated in pits where at the same time the same instrument could have been traded at different prices. Also front running helped to make lots of ticks.

Regards,
redduke
There are so many forms of trading that go by the name of scalping.. just about every one except real scalping in fact
 
If you read Martin's own book "Pit Bull", it is all there. He was not a scalper.

" ... with huge underwater position "

He used occassionaly as one of multiple tactic .Place on exchange give possibility to make that .

As each tactic this is limited ,alsov with place on exchange .

Advantage's of place on exchange

1.speed against retail
(but competition from another exchange member's)
2 .commission (if place selled after with profit )

For retail in CME exist not relevant possibility (from author test
and game theory) long term to win tick or two on enz7

Atleast not observed relevant result by any contest's

by www.marketzar.com -all winner (author alsov) high intensity
intraday trading - blend from half-point,points,two-five points ...
20-40 operations per day .


About russian scalping you can ask dirk(starter of this thread ) ,he is winner of RTS exchange 2007 contest with 1900$ 21 time's multiple in quartal . Each day 500-1000 operations .

He performed heavy task against competitions ,but he's
method not possible to use on CME

It is possible only in Russian undeveloped market .


Your respectfully ....
 
Quote from RedDuke:

Also, bigger plyers like Paul Rotter (flipper) play all kind of games to trick peoples into trades via fake # of large bids and offers.

that is exactly why I have opted out of researching dom analyses, only price and price based indicators reveal real accumulation ImO.
 
JSSPMK


Registered: Feb 2007
Posts: 2246


12-21-07 01:12 PM

One should not forget that leasing a seat on an exchange and not having one is like wearing a cheap suit bought at a local market or an exclusive boutique over at Knightsbridge At a certain level you are expected to have rather than not have. Pit based trading most likely will join dinosaurs at your local history museum.
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Depend from exchange's ,compare NYMEX policy with
CME policy .Was disscused before ...
 
Quote from JSSPMK:

that is exactly why I have opted out of researching dom analyses, only price and price based indicators reveal real accumulation ImO.

This is very true. The games played on Dom are legion, but there is a way to see through them. Not sure if it is possible on bund but definitely on DAX. I have posted a link earlier in the thread of how I do it.

Price action is the most important variable of course, but Dom helped me hugely to be not shaken out as many times as I used to be. Once I am in a trade that went into green, managing it becomes easy, it is the beginning that is hard. My loss tolerance is very small. Dom analysis helps to identify bad entries, and thus avoiding them.

Redduke
 
Ssss,

Just curious what aspects of under developments on rts are being exploited, if it is not proprietory of course.

In order to work for simmons, you need at least a PhD.
 
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