"Scaling out" is inferior behavior

Do you scale out of positions?

  • I always scale out

    Votes: 113 14.1%
  • I scale out most of the time

    Votes: 228 28.5%
  • Most of the time, I do not scale out

    Votes: 189 23.6%
  • I never scale out

    Votes: 270 33.8%

  • Total voters
    800
Quote from Buy1Sell2:

...All in All out benefits every system over the long haul...

That is not so, purely because All In All Out might not do well in certain strategies. A strategy that I use would not be as profitable using All In All Out in comparison with Scaling Out. I know this, because I tried & failed. All In All Out simply doesn't garnish same results as Scaling Out one does in my case, because so many times if I hadn't scaled out I would have been stopped out & unrealised gain would turn into a loss & it's as simple as that.
 
For people who know what they are doing scaling out is 'Superior' behavior.

If you can call the exact top/bottom then yes scaling out is inferior.
 
Quote from [Proximo]:

For people who know what they are doing scaling out is 'Superior' behavior.

If you can call the exact top/bottom then yes scaling out is inferior.

It has nothing to do with whether you can call the top or bottom. All in, All out is superior on all systems and abilities.:)
 
Quote from JSSPMK:

That is not so, purely because All In All Out might not do well in certain strategies. A strategy that I use would not be as profitable using All In All Out in comparison with Scaling Out. I know this, because I tried & failed. All In All Out simply doesn't garnish same results as Scaling Out one does in my case, because so many times if I hadn't scaled out I would have been stopped out & unrealised gain would turn into a loss & it's as simple as that.

Most likely, your scale out point should really be your all out point. Some more analysis will bear that out. :)
 
Quote from Buy1Sell2:

Most likely, your scale out point should really be your all out point. Some more analysis will bear that out. :)

JSSPMK is trading two systems that happen to have the same entry.

The normal arguments for diversifacation pertain.
 
Quote from Buy1Sell2:

Most likely, your scale out point should really be your all out point. Some more analysis will bear that out. :)

But if I do close 100% position at scale out point, then extended gains become impossible to achieve in my situation. Just like in Ram's link, the guy is pretty clear about not scaling out when using his strategy, which is:

1. Enter
2. If Price goes to target All out
3. If Price returns to entry, before hitting target, then All out to b.e. (don't worry about spread cost for now)

But, in my strategy I

1. Enter
2. If Price goes to 1st target Scale out 2/3
3. If Price goes to 2nd target, then remainder 1/3 is closed.
4. If Price returns to entry, before hitting 2nd target, then remainder 1/3 is closed.

Again, I am talking about my way, which is not universal. Of course when one doesn't scale out when extended gains are achieved they beat scale out results, it's understood. Yet, so many times extended gains are not possible to achieve & that is where scaled out trades become more advantageous as instead of a b.e. trade it becomes a winning trade. Where is the fallacy in that?
 
Well, do what is best for you.

I think that newer traders could benefit more from scaling out because it can help with the psychology of having to face a pullback.

Just as what David Merkel said, "Scaling in and scaling out gives freedom to investors, and removing many of the psychological burdens that they bear. It doesn¡¯t mean there won¡¯t be losses. There will always be losses - but they will be easier to bear, with no panic that leads to selling off at the lows, or buying at the highs."
 
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