Say it ain't so, Joe and other bitter truths

[AAAintheBeltway]

Quote from dddooo:

In Tuesday's primary, Connecticut Democrats dumped Joe Lieberman, an 18-year incumbent,
Rahm Emanuel: "This shows what blind loyalty to George Bush and being his love child means," said Representative Rahm Emanuel of Illinois, the head of the Democratic House Congressional campaign. "This is not about the war. It's blind loyalty to Bush."

because he supports the war on terrorism.
because he supports the war in Iraq which as most americans and the rest of the world know has nothing to do with and is actually a distraction from the war on terror

This is the same Joe Lieberman who voted against all the Bush tax cuts,
and then voted to make them permanent

against banning same-sex marriage, against banning partial-birth abortion,
but in favor of keeping Terri Schiavo alive against her will

against the confirmation of Judge Alito,
which was meaningless but then he voted against the filibuster which could have worked.

against drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and in favor of the Kyoto accords.
but in favor of Bush's energy policy which was a bonanza for oil companies and did nothing for the rest of the country.


Lieberman was the only democrat willing to work with Bush on his Social Security plan, Lieberman supported school vouchers, there was no free trade agreement Lieberman did not like.


PS You remember the republican "Sore Loserman meme"? I have to admit that they were half right.

Is Lamont Jewish? Lieberman has always made a big deal of being an Orthodox Jew. Given the current anti-semitism and anti-Israel sentiment among the nutcase left, I have to wonder if that wasn't a factor.

Of course, the media will not mention it.

 

[james_bond_3rd]

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

Is Lamont Jewish? Lieberman has always made a big deal of being an Orthodox Jew. Given the current anti-semitism and anti-Israel sentiment among the nutcase left, I have to wonder if that wasn't a factor.

Of course, the media will not mention it.

Lamont is not Jewish. However, he is strongly pro-israel, to the disappointment of some on the left.

 

[dddooo]

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

Is Lamont Jewish? Lieberman has always made a big deal of being an Orthodox Jew. Given the current anti-semitism and anti-Israel sentiment among the nutcase left, I have to wonder if that wasn't a factor.

There is no evidence that anti-semitism or Anti-Israel sentiment played a role in Lieberman's defeat, an overwhelming number of Lamont voters are very enthusiastic about other progressive pro-Israel jewish politicians, Russ Feingold immediately comes to mind. People looking for excuses and explanations simply refuse to face the reality that Bush is radioactive and that's what did Lieberman in. Some republicans do get it though:

The old banner of the Michigan Republican Party website

the new banner on their website

http://www.michiganliberal.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=6188


The irony of an orthodox Jew helping a born again Christian establish a fundamentalist Islamic regime in Iraq was not lost on many either.

james_bond_3rd is absolutely correct about Lamont not being jewish but strongly pro-Israel.

 

[Pabst]

Feingold could have been beaten in 2004. Wisconsin Republicans thought he was untouchable so the nomination went uncontested to a "regular guy" who'd never held public office. In turn Feingold only received 55% of the vote. Kerry and Bush ran virtually even in Wisconsin meaning that Feingold only attracted about 1 in 10 voters who went for Bush to "crossover." If the Wisconsin GOP had not incorrectly identified Feingold as being "safe" they could have run a name candidate and won.

Quote from dddooo:

There is no evidence that anti-semitism or Anti-Israel sentiment played a role in Lieberman's defeat, an overwhelming number of Lamont voters are very enthusiastic about other progressive pro-Israel jewish politicians, Russ Feingold immediately comes to mind. People looking for excuses and explanations simply refuse to face the reality that Bush is radioactive and that's what did Lieberman in. Some republicans do get it though:



The irony of an orthodox Jew helping a born again Christian establish a fundamentalist Islamic regime in Iraq was not lost on many either.

james_bond_3rd is absolutely correct about Lamont not being jewish but strongly pro-Israel.

 

[dddooo]

Quote from Pabst:

Feingold could have been beaten in 2004. Wisconsin Republicans thought he was untouchable so the nomination went uncontested to a "regular guy" who'd never held public office. In turn Feingold only received 55% of the vote. Kerry and Bush ran virtually even in Wisconsin meaning that Feingold only attracted about 1 in 10 voters who went for Bush to "crossover." If the Wisconsin GOP had not incorrectly identified Feingold as being "safe" they could have run a name candidate and won.

Feingold did not have a real competition in 2004 so I suppose he did not campaign strongly either. There is no reason to believe that if WI republicans put a real effort into defeating him and he'd be forced to put a real effort into defending his seat the outcome would be different.

At any rate, being one of the most progressive members of the senate in a state like WI is not easy, WI is not Massachusets or Connecticut. My point was that he's extremely highly regarded by Lamont voters (which destroys the anti-semitism argument), not necessarily by his constituency.

 

[Pabst]

Quote from dddooo:

Feingold did not have a real competition in 2004 so I suppose he did not campaign strongly either. There is no reason to believe that if WI republicans put a real effort into defeating him and he'd be forced to put a real effort into defending his seat the outcome would be different.

At any rate, being one of the most progressive members of the senate in a state like WI is not easy, WI is not Massachusets or Connecticut. My point was that he's extremely highly regarded by Lamont voters (which destroys the anti-semitism argument), not necessarily by his constituency.

The apparent lack of competition didn't dissuade the paragon of campaign finance reform from raising $8,377,885 in quest of re-election.

You may like to know (you're a better student of history than LoZZer) that Wisconsin was the birthplace of the Progressive movement. In fact it's just recently that the word progressive has been used to politically describe candidates outside of Wisconsin. For a few decades, Milwaukee had a Socialist Mayor!

http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/turningpoints/tp-036/?action=more_essay