Say goodbye to barrier beaches and coastal salt marshes

[futurecurrents]

I don't even care about the houses and cities. Some of my favorite places are salt marshes and barrier beaches.


According to the latest from NASA, however, the projections the panel made for a rise in global sea levels of 1 to 3 feet may already be outdated.

According to Steven Nerem of the University of Colorado, we are "locked into at least 3 feet of sea level rise, and probably more."

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Nerem said experts now think a rise in sea levels toward "the higher end of that range is more likely, and the question remains how that range might have to shift upwards."

This is startling news if you are one of the 150 million people on Earth who live near the ocean. Even if you don't live close to the sea, you likely use goods that are manufactured in plants near the water, or vacation at the beach.

Even NASA is finding some of its critical infrastructure threatened by the rising seas.

 

[futurecurrents]

If the entire ice sheet in Greenland melted completely, global sea levels would rise around 20 feet, and while this total loss would likely take many centuries to occur, sea levels would rise "as much as 10 feet in a century or two," according to NASA scientist and ice expert Tom Wagner.

Many climate experts say temperatures are rising faster than at any point in our known history and that it is largely because of human activities such as the burning of fossil fuels.


http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/27/us/nasa-rising-sea-levels/

 

[Clubber Lang]

Move out of your parents basement you knob gobbler.

 

[loyek590]

last I heard, Louisiana is losing 50 acres of land a month. Not because of global warming, just extreme mismanagement of the Mississippi River and the coast. Exxon does a good job of selling oil, but they do a pis poor job of managing wetlands. Maybe we need something like an Environmental Protection Agency?

 

[gwb-trading]

Barrier Beaches and Coastal Marshes are constantly changing. If Futurecurrents had paid attention in his sixth grade science class he would have learned this - but sadly he remains ignorant to this day and tries to blame it on the global warming boogey man.

They mapped the marshes in the Chesapeake Bay in 1750 -- by the time they re-mapped them again in 1840 nearly all had disappeared or moved.

During previous warm periods on the earth back in the Roman times and near 500 AD; nearly all the known marshes were inundated due to higher sea levels - all of these recovered in later periods of time.

The reality is that Barrier Beaches and Coastal Marshes are constantly changing and in motion - they are altered due to naturally occurring changes in sea level and climate over time.

 

[loyek590]

Barrier Beaches and Coastal Marshes are constantly changing. If Futurecurrents had paid attention in his sixth grade science class he would have learned this - but sadly he remains ignorant to this day and tries to blame it on the global warming boogey man.

They mapped the marshes in the Chesapeake Bay in 1750 -- by the time they re-mapped them again in 1840 nearly all had disappeared or moved.

During previous warm periods on the earth back in the Roman times and near 500 AD; nearly all the known marshes were inundated due to higher sea levels - all of these recovered in later periods of time.

The reality is that Barrier Beaches and Coastal Marshes are constantly changing and in motion - they are altered due to naturally occurring changes in sea level and climate over time.

perhaps, but since 1750 man is always trying to reclaim land from wetlands. Now we do it on massive scale to keep rivers navigable and surrounding land agriable. And like most of these attempts, what we gain somewhere we lose just the same or more somewhere else. If it were not so we would all be living in paradise.
And that is just about what the Netherlands has done. They took a swamp that nobody wanted and turned it into a first world country. So I would look to them to learn what the negative consequences of such activity are.

 

[gwb-trading]

perhaps, but since 1750 man is always trying to reclaim land from wetlands. Now we do it on massive scale to keep rivers navigable and surrounding land agriable. And like most of these attempts, what we gain somewhere we lose just the same or more somewhere else. If it were not so we would all be living in paradise. And that is just about what the Netherlands has done. They took a swamp that nobody wanted and turned it into a first world country. So I would look to them to learn what the negative consequences of such activity are.

Yes, I agree man's work to reclaim marshes on a large scale for cities, navigable waterways, and farms has a significant impact on fisheries and the eco-system. The decline of some fish species and shellfish can be directly linked to this. In fact in some places such as the Chesapeake the debate between developers and marsh conservationists has been on-going for decades.

However this is very different than claiming that man-made CO2 is responsible for the issues with coastal marshes.

 

[loyek590]

Yes, I agree man's work to reclaim marshes on a large scale for cities, navigable waterways, and farms has a significant impact on fisheries and the eco-system. The decline of some fish species and shellfish can be directly linked to this. In fact in some places such as the Chesapeake the debate between developers and marsh conservationists has been on-going for decades.

However this is very different than claiming that man-made CO2 is responsible for the issues with coastal marshes.

oh hell yeah, you'd have to be a nutcase to make that kind of outrageous claim based on nothing more than an Al Gore chart.

 

[futurecurrents]

The sea levels are increasing at unnatural pace because of man made global warming and will be flooding out cities and marshes and say goodbye to barrier and low lying islands. This would not happen if it were not for the 40% increase in earth's most important greenhouse gas CO2 due to man and the very rapid rise in temps it is causing. This is leading to rapid ice melting around the world and water expansion as it heats up.

 

[gwb-trading]

The worst part of this is that "climate change" advocates attempting to tie AGW to issues with barriers beaches and coastal wetlands undermine the efforts to preserve these natural resources. AGW advocates cause money to be spent on non-existent problems rather than directly addressing the real environmental issues.

In North Carolina, Doug Rader is our most well know advocate for wetlands, coastal marshes, and barrier islands. He and other scientists have stated repeatedly that AGW has nothing to do with the problems facing the environment and fisheries at our coast. The primary issues are excessive development, pollution, and over-fishing.

http://www.elitetrader.com/et/index.php?threads/climate-change.286732/page-75#post-4067764