Right, so you've backed up to ad hominem.
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Say goodbye to barrier beaches and coastal salt marshes
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FC has stated that new installations use a new gas.pointing out hypocrisy is the ultimate drag. And to be fair, fc has never advocated individuals cut back on CO2, he wants the government to make him quit.
Everyone wants government to place the burden equitably. No one, especially a business, wants to be the first or the only to bear. Codify the regulations, publish the penalty structure, and bring them into force for all. Business will adapt as it has a thousand times before.pointing out hypocrisy is the ultimate drag. And to be fair, fc has never advocated individuals cut back on CO2, he wants the government to make him quit.
we could eliminate the EPA and all it's regulations and it would take 20 years before anybody even notices. It's no longer good business to dump into the water or the air. The new iwatch computes your carbon footprint. No one can buy or sell or get elected if they have a big footprint. (oh sorry, is it morning already? Man that was one good long night. I think I solved just about everything.)Everyone wants government to place the burden equitably. No one, especially a business, wants to be the first or the only to bear. Codify the regulations, publish the penalty structure, and bring them into force for all. Business will adapt as it has a thousand times before.
Barrier Beaches and Coastal Marshes are constantly changing. If Futurecurrents had paid attention in his sixth grade science class he would have learned this - but sadly he remains ignorant to this day and tries to blame it on the global warming boogey man.
They mapped the marshes in the Chesapeake Bay in 1750 -- by the time they re-mapped them again in 1840 nearly all had disappeared or moved.
During previous warm periods on the earth back in the Roman times and near 500 AD; nearly all the known marshes were inundated due to higher sea levels - all of these recovered in later periods of time.
The reality is that Barrier Beaches and Coastal Marshes are constantly changing and in motion - they are altered due to naturally occurring changes in sea level and climate over time.
Where I grew up in Colorado is currently semi-arid Eastern slope of the Rockies. My hometown was at the bottom of an ocean. There are many large sandstone rock formations where one can find imprints of sea shells, fish and tropical plant fossils. As far as I'm aware the climate change that caused that ocean to dry up happened before the industrial revolution.
FC, is like the scarecrow in the Wizard of Oz, who didn't know why the ocean is near the shore. FC, bless his heart, doesn't know that when the water level changes the marshes will move according to the water level.
Get back to us in fifty years and let us know how your prediction is working out.Yes, that is now. The rate of rising will increase exponentially.
because by then it will be too late?Get back to us in fifty years and let us know how your prediction is working out.
For me it will be. I'll be dead. Unlikely from drowning though.because by then it will be too late?
On a more serious note, I have suggested that the current CO2-climate-change cult has direct parallels in past fiascoes that were publicized as being based on hard scientific evidence. In each of these cases, data was used to make certain assertions and predictions that became so very heavily politicized that those knowledgeable scientists that spoke the truth were belittled. The Lysenko affair in the Soviet Union would be one such example, and the Eugenics movement in Germany another, and there are plenty of other similar examples.
Now we have some of the worlds most respected meteorologists and atmospheric physicists pointing out the holes in Hansen's hypothesis, but no one other than other scientists are listening. The public, the politicians, and the media are all on the other side. This is no way to do science.
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The question has never been whether there are risks associated with climate change. There always are, and always have been. The question is, can anything effective be done about it? So far we only know that merely curtailing our CO2 emissions by any amount proposed can only have a negligible impact on climate change.
Probably the single most effective measure we could take, assuming we are concerned about mans' activities influencing climate in a negative way, would be planet-wide population control.
Probably the single most effective measure we could take, assuming we are concerned about mans' activities influencing climate in a negative way, would be planet-wide population control.
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