Saudi Uproar

Khashoggi had ties to the Saudi royal family/Saudi intelligence service, he had worked as a journalist/editor, for the Saudi government, i.e. he had a lot of information. He moved to the US, criticized Saudi Arabia in foreign media, was in contact with Saudi dissidents/opposition in exile. Saudi Arabia has the death penalty for treason/espionage. Saudi Arabia made an attempt to arrest him, on Saudi soil, he resisted, he died. They cut him up in order to transport the body. Saudi Arabia cut of heads, hands, feet all the time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamal_Khashoggi#Saudi_Arabia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Saudi_Arabia#Capital_offences
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Saudi_Arabia#Mass_executions

Are you saying the government has less blood on it's hands, than common criminals? Do you expect more of the government than common thieves?

I think he's saying a government killing a private citizen (on foreign soil no less) is far more egregious than criminals gunning down people over some beef (cartels against mormons this week).
 
BTW. Ill add that the Khashoggi murder was pre-planned and preordained by the Trump Admin. I haven't read this thread, but if thats the inference, then its right. If someone wants to post the daily chart of the WTI contract, it peaked the day after Khashoggi was offed, then dropped about 40 Dollars. Inside job = pre planned.
Ideally arrest him, bring him back to Saudi Arabia and put him on trial for treason/espionage. Or killing him inside a consulate/office building, with the challenges that brings about, was the plan all along?
 
I think he's saying a government killing a private citizen (on foreign soil no less) is far more egregious than criminals gunning down people over some beef (cartels against mormons this week).
He was not a regular/private citizen, he had ties to the Saudi royal family/Saudi intelligence services, used to work for the Saudi government etc. He might have committed treason/espionage, they tried to arrest him, he resisted, it got out of hand, he died. A Saudi Arabian consulate is Saudi soil. Ideally arrest him, bring him back to Saudi Arabia and put him on trial for treason/espionage. Or killing him inside a consulate/office building, with the challenges that brings about, was the plan all along?
 
He was not a regular/private citizen, he had ties to the Saudi royal family/Saudi intelligence services, used to work for the Saudi government etc. He might have committed treason/espionage, they tried to arrest him, he resisted, it got out of hand, he died. A Saudi Arabian consulate is Saudi soil. Ideally arrest him, bring him back to Saudi Arabia and put him on trial for treason/espionage. Or killing him inside a consulate/office building, with the challenges that brings about, was the plan all along?

This is the 1st I've heard of him being a "spy", sounds like BS smear conspiracy to be honest. What passes as a spy in Saudi may just be speaking your mind elsewhere however. I guess I'm not sure what your stance on the issue is; you seemed critical of what appears to be misunderstood downplaying of the killing by ElCubano.
 
This is the 1st I've heard of him being a "spy", sounds like BS smear conspiracy to be honest. What passes as a spy in Saudi may just be speaking your mind elsewhere however. I guess I'm not sure what your stance on the issue is; you seemed critical of what appears to be misunderstood downplaying of the killing by ElCubano.
If you have information on inner governmental dealings(worked in government, have ties to the royal family etc), and you share that with the opposition/dissidents etc, is that not spying/treason?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamal_Khashoggi#Saudi_Arabia
 
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If you have information on inner governmental dealings(worked in government, have ties to the royal family etc), and you share that with the opposition/dissidents etc, is that not spying/treason?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamal_Khashoggi#Saudi_Arabia

That would depend on the nature of the secrets being shared. See, Trump would paint the whistle-blower a traitor, while the rest of us see him a patriot.

Also, first I've heard of him "working in government" and having knowledge of the "inner workings".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamal_Khashoggi#Career
 
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https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/06/trump-saudi-king-salman-pensacola-shooting-077222

Trump passes along Saudi king's 'sympathies' after Saudi national kills 3 at naval base

“The King said that the Saudi people are greatly angered by the barbaric actions of the shooter," the president tweeted.

President Donald Trump confirmed that the suspected shooter who killed three people and wounded 11 others at a Naval base in Pensacola on Friday morning was a Saudi national and announced that he’d spoken with the kingdom’s ruler about the attack.

“King Salman of Saudi Arabia just called to express his sincere condolences and give his sympathies to the families and friends of the warriors who were killed and wounded in the attack,” Trump wrote on Twitter. “The King said that the Saudi people are greatly angered by the barbaric actions of the shooter, and that this person in no way shape or form represents the feelings of the Saudi people who love the American people.”
 
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