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The Ukraine president just addressed the Canadian parliament and will address the US Congress tomorrow. Let's see whether he can convince the US to establish a non-fly zone.

Ukraine gets nothing to lose. So they want to drag as many nations into this as possible. Canada won't do anything. And Biden said clearly that he won't do it. Even though he is old. He is still clear that he does not want to start a WW III.

Also, ask yourself. What is the end of the game, or the end of war? Russia will never be destroyed. All the billions of $$$ will only prolong the war. More resources will be burnt and more people will die. It is madness and senseless.

Now Ukraine president said Ukraine won't join NATO since he does not see that Ukraine will get into NATO. NATO won't fight to save Ukraine. That was exactly what Russia requested. Both Biden and Ukraine said NO.
 
Also, ask yourself. What is the end of the game, or the end of war? Russia will never be destroyed. All the billions of $$$ will only prolong the war. More resources will be burnt and more people will die. It is madness and senseless.

Now Ukraine president said Ukraine won't join NATO since he does not see that Ukraine will get into NATO. NATO won't fight to save Ukraine. That was exactly what Russia requested. Both Biden and Ukraine said NO.
Does NATO have a dog in this fight?
 
They cannot have one, because Putin is unstable and has his finger on the nuke button. Why does nobody else here see this?
Does NATO have a dog in this fight? Is it like a retroactive treaty? How does something like that work?
 
Does NATO have a dog in this fight? Is it like a retroactive treaty? How does something like that work?

It's a combined defense thingy. You attack one NATO member, you have attacked them all. And if article 5 is invoked, then all NATO countries respond in kind. It's a bad deal. It worked out for the USA on 9/11, but that was not against a nuclear power. Ug
 
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