This is a non ending argument, as we are dealing with your "belief" systems that are not grounded in science.
You are putting a fetus ahead of the of the will and rights of the person, and that is as absurd as putting cancer ahead of the will of a person. Just because a cancer takes control of the body, doesn't give the cancer a right to grow or survive, or that the will of the person who has cancer should take a back seat to the growth of a cancer, simply because the state might want the cancer to grow. No one should be forced into having a baby if they don't want a baby.
Bottom line:
Destruction of a fetus is not killing a baby, any more than destruction of a germinated seed is not killing a tree. A dead fetus is not a dead being.
Science has classifications for a reason....
You are putting a fetus ahead of the of the will and rights of the person, and that is as absurd as putting cancer ahead of the will of a person. Just because a cancer takes control of the body, doesn't give the cancer a right to grow or survive, or that the will of the person who has cancer should take a back seat to the growth of a cancer, simply because the state might want the cancer to grow. No one should be forced into having a baby if they don't want a baby.
Bottom line:
Destruction of a fetus is not killing a baby, any more than destruction of a germinated seed is not killing a tree. A dead fetus is not a dead being.
Science has classifications for a reason....
Quote from jem:
I am not sure if we agree or not. When the baby is part way out and the doctor kills the baby -- isn't that a homicide. What has that got to do with the womens reproductive system at that stage. The baby is part way out.
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Regarding the other part of your argument. Feel free to substitute the word "baby" with the word fetus. The point still stands. The fetus comes out of the women at some point.
The state is not taking control of the womens reproductive system the fetus does. You are advocating going in and killing the fetus and then removing the dead being. The fetus still comes out of the women. If a state says, do not kill the fetus it is not taking control of the womens body. It is just protecting life. A women could still choose to end pregancy prematurely. That can be done without necesarily kiling the fetus. In fact it happens frequently.
I am currently just arguing against a b.s euphemism. Let us say what it is. It is killing life for the comfort or well being of another life. The question is - should a state sanction it.